2016 Australian Olympic Team Coin Program and partnership with Woolworths

[brismike]

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2016-Olympic-2-Coin-Blue-and-Black-in-25-Coins-Bag-2-Bags-1-black-1-blue-/252470845143
Black coins to be released next Tuesday but already on eBay!

That is an absolute effing joke. The pond scum that do this are highest order pond scum.

Mike

[Fulvio]

Black coins to be released next Tuesday but already on eBay!

I just added that to the discussion I've been having with Ross. This crap has to stop. Hopefully the AFP can nail all these pricks who break the embargoes.

Grrrrr.... And with an open ended mintage, who knows how many the final number will be? 3 million, 5? 10? (yeah, I know, 10 won't happen, but 4 or 5 is realistic.)

[trout]

The "Fun" has just begun Mate.
There are 4 more different coins to be released in this series yet :dodgy:

[Fulvio]

4 more

Five.
Posting this because he's too shy to self-promote... :angel:

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/122054030996



Pretty cool I reckon.

[runway]

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2016-Olympic-2-Coin-Blue-and-Black-in-25-Coins-Bag-2-Bags-1-black-1-blue-/252470845143
Black coins to be released next Tuesday but already on eBay!

That is an absolute effing joke. The pond scum that do this are highest order pond scum.

Mike

Corruption at it's worst again mate :idea::dodgy:

[trout]

Black coins to be released next Tuesday but already on eBay!

I just added that to the discussion I've been having with Ross. This crap has to stop. Hopefully the AFP can nail all these pricks who break the embargoes.

Grrrrr.... And with an open ended mintage, who knows how many the final number will be? 3 million, 5? 10? (yeah, I know, 10 won't happen, but 4 or 5 is realistic.)

I hope it is 50 million of each, That would put paid to these sort of shady goings on in a heartbeat .

[Fulvio]

I hope it is 50 million of each, That would put paid to these sort of shady goings on in a heartbeat .

You think so? Quite the opposite I'd say. Get in quick before the market tanks.

[Ozcoins]

Black coins to be released next Tuesday but already on eBay!

I just added that to the discussion I've been having with Ross. This crap has to stop. Hopefully the AFP can nail all these pricks who break the embargoes.

Grrrrr.... And with an open ended mintage, who knows how many the final number will be? 3 million, 5? 10? (yeah, I know, 10 won't happen, but 4 or 5 is realistic.)

I just don't see what the AFP might do.
Wouldn't an embargo be a contract agreement (assuming it's actually in a contract somewhere)?
Why would police get involved with a breach of contract issue?

[Fulvio]

Why would police get involved with a breach of contract issue?

They got involved because the mint asked them to. They will investigate and determine if any laws were broken, and if they have a case, they'll press charges. But even if they don't, they will identify the wrongdoers, and if they had unfair access by virtue of being employees, well, you can bet they won't be for long.

This is really no different than a mint employee who smuggles out mint sports. Even if they've replaced them with other coins to balance the books, so its technically not theft, its still wrong, and has consequences.

[trout]

I don't know for certain as I have never worked in the industry But wouldn't these people that work for the security companies responsible for the distribution of our coinage have to agree to and sign a legally binding document that would cover the codes of conduct for this particular industry??

So if a case cannot be brought against these Miscreants for breaking Federal or State laws then Maybe a civil case could hold water for Breach of Contract ?

[robbiegal]

In Melbourne
Picked up 8 blueies from the local woolies today
Multiple trips to the  checkout chick who had two bags in the till. 2 for 2
So now I have 10 but will leave a couple for the grandies

Had my to be expected allergic reaction to Melbourne been here 2 days and sick as for 2 days . Pity but the doc reckons it is real. Drives me nuts

[Ozcoins]

Why would police get involved with a breach of contract issue?

This is really no different than a mint employee who smuggles out mint sports. Even if they've replaced them with other coins to balance the books, so its technically not theft, its still wrong, and has consequences.

I would expect that creating "mint sport" is likely a crime in its own right.
Needing to ascertain  "were any laws broken" for breaking an embargo seems to be starting from pretty shaky ground.
Don't get me wrong - people doing the wrong thing should be stopped, I just don't know what could be done.
If I was running a company with a product and wanted a specific release date, I would write up a contract for the distributors to agree to. If someone broke that agreement I am not sure how much I could actually do about it, other than saying "No more products for you".  Maybe that is what needs to happen?

[jens coins]

How about this seller selling the carded coins in a box:

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/25-X-2016-Australian-Olympic-Team-Colored-Sets-5-Of-Each-Colored-5-Coins-Sets-/262542049541?hash=item3d20b9c105:g:HBsAAOSw0fhXlGpC

and a sack of coins also:

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2016-OLYMPIC-TEAM-2-BLUE-COLOR-FULLY-SEALED-Mint-Big-BAG-Very-Scare-/262542079926?#description

[trout]

How about this seller selling the carded coins in a box:

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/25-X-2016-Australian-Olympic-Team-Colored-Sets-5-Of-Each-Colored-5-Coins-Sets-/262542049541?hash=item3d20b9c105:g:HBsAAOSw0fhXlGpC

and a sack of coins also:

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2016-OLYMPIC-TEAM-2-BLUE-COLOR-FULLY-SEALED-Mint-Big-BAG-Very-Scare-/262542079926?#description

Also seems to have quite an extensive user ID history as well:dodgy:

[trout]

The introduction of a Commemorative $2 in 2012 with the Poppy coin both plain and coloured and the different coins issued since  has no doubt added new collectors to the hobby which is a good thing.
However these coins have also been the cause of a pronounced increase in the many scams and unethical behaviour  that has surrounded these issues since their inception and this is a very Bad thing for the hobby in the long run.

In my opinion these coloured coins are pretty much a two edged sword for coin collecting in Australia.
On one hand they are responsible for creating a renewed interest in numismatics.
On the other hand they have opened up a huge can of Worms with an ever increasing number of people with little or No integrity that are taking advantage of these newer collectors.

I think that at the end of the day these $2 coins may do more harm than good to the hobby in the long term.