Ebay fakes

[Fulvio]

I just hope that the buyer in this case twigs that the coins are "shed jobs" and sends them back for a refund :ok:

Yeah, me too.

[trout]

And we're far too quick to tar, feather, hang, draw and quarter suspects around here.

Still think this seller is "Kosher" ??

This seller has plenty more where those other three come from. :dodgy::dodgy::dodgy:

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/SPECTACULAR-UNIQUE-ERROR-COIN-5-ct-DOUBLE-STRIKE-1980-and-NO-RESERVE-/201712798498?hash=item2ef7050b22:g:TN4AAOSwImRYIZ1Y

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/SPECTACULAR-UNIQUE-ERROR-COIN-2-ct-DOUBLE-STRIKE-1975-and-NO-RESERVE-/201712783339?hash=item2ef704cfeb:g:1HkAAOSwx2dYIZVP

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/SPECTACULAR-UNIQUE-ERROR-COIN-1-ct-DOUBLE-STRIKE-1981-and-NO-RESERVE-/192021909767?hash=item2cb565d107:g:oY8AAOSwA3dYIZxZ

Here is another one from a different seller
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2008-Double-strike-10-cent-error-coin-great-condition-being-found-in-circulation/162270987168?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D39923%26meid%3D36aa4bb7798541408e55e254352dd719%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D201712798498

[robbiegal]

the seller has been on ebay for a long time
Based in Australia, d****** has been an eBay member since 25 Dec, 1999

i remember buying notes from him ten or more years ago
in fact he got me to start a paypal account  for buying stuff on ebay

so he's not a fly by night type by any means

[trout]

so he's not a fly by night type by any means

:Agreed:
I am pretty certain that this seller knows exactly what these "error" coins are and is blatantly ripping people off here :dodgy:

[trout]

Reported :ok:

[gnome]

Pretty sure I've bought off him as well, awhile back Robbiegal, without any problems. Looks like his methods of selling may have changed somewhat.

[markn]

so he's not a fly by night type by any means

:Agreed:
I am pretty certain that this seller knows exactly what these "error" coins are and is blatantly ripping people off here :dodgy:

IN my experience Dick Pot (that eBay seller) is very honest.  He most likely isn't aware that those coins are not real errors and you might be better of messaging him directly.  A major auction house in Queensland who specialises in errors sold several manufactured errors of exactly the same type a few years back and had no idea they were not genuine until told otherwise.  Dick may well benefit from just being told what's going on.

[trout]

so he's not a fly by night type by any means

:Agreed:
I am pretty certain that this seller knows exactly what these "error" coins are and is blatantly ripping people off here :dodgy:

IN my experience Dick Pot (that eBay seller) is very honest.  He most likely isn't aware that those coins are not real errors and you might be better of messaging him directly.  A major auction house in Queensland who specialises in errors sold several manufactured errors of exactly the same type a few years back and had no idea they were not genuine until told otherwise.  Dick may well benefit from just being told what's going on.

I don't know the bloke but I did email twice.
The first email I sent got a reply stating that the president of some numismatic society called them errors that is a professor of some sort.
I replied explaining that the coins are "Vice Jobs" pointing out that the mirrored designs in the "Double Strike" are indicative of this and that they are NOT errors at all.
So far NO reply and the listings are still there, I reported the listings a couple of hours after sending the email.
This seller is no stranger to numismatics  Nor eBay with a feedback # of 21,448 and to be selling this sort of garbage from such an experienced seller is quite unacceptable .

Has been struck twice.........by the look of things

This sentence in his listings leads me to believe that he is quite aware that these are NOT genuine errors and is there to cover his back if the sales turn pear shaped :ok:

Like I said I don't Know this seller But if he does have a good reputation and he wants to maintain that then selling this sort of rubbish is a very good way of loosing that reputation :ok:

[markn]

I don't know the bloke but I did email twice.
The first email I sent got a reply stating that the president of some numismatic society called them errors that is a professor of some sort.
I replied explaining that the coins are "Vice Jobs" pointing out that the mirrored designs in the "Double Strike" are indicative of this and that they are NOT errors at all.
So far NO reply and the listings are still there, I reported the listings a couple of hours after sending the email.
This seller is no stranger to numismatics  Nor eBay with a feedback # of 21,448 and to be selling this sort of garbage from such an experienced seller is quite unacceptable .

Has been struck twice.........by the look of things

This sentence in his listings leads me to believe that he is quite aware that these are NOT genuine errors and is there to cover his back if the sales turn pear shaped :ok:

Like I said I don't Know this seller But if he does have a good reputation and he wants to maintain that then selling this sort of rubbish is a very good way of loosing that reputation :ok:

OK, I have messaged him too.  Will see what comes of it.

[trout]

Maybe he has someone new helping him out with his listings lately ??

[Nevol]

I also sent him a message for each of his 'error' coins, plus one to the other seller. Now all that remains to do is sit back and see what happens. :angel:

[trout]

It is bad enough that newer sellers list these sort of things But if a well respected seller does the same thing it sends the wrong  message to other sellers that this sort of behaviour is acceptable and is a legitimate way of doing business on eBay.
With the recent dubious business practices being used on eBay and Facebook by some of the larger players lately Maybe this seller has decided that it is quite OK to list and sell these fake errors now ??
Who knows :angel:
The seller has taken down the listings, Good on him :good:

[Goldseeker]

But lets say that these errors are proclaimed genuine by expert persons, haven't you possibly opened a case for slander to the owners of this forum?

[trout]

But lets say that these errors are proclaimed genuine by expert persons, haven't you possibly opened a case for slander to the owners of this forum?

No "Expert" would proclaim these to be anything other than Vice Jobs Bruce.

[markn]

But lets say that these errors are proclaimed genuine by expert persons, haven't you possibly opened a case for slander to the owners of this forum?

Slander is making a false statement against someone's character or opinions.  In this case it wouldn't be slander because the coins are not errors and saying they are not errors is therefore not slanderous.  

However, if someone in this thread were to accuse the seller of deliberately and deceptively selling them as errors then that could be construed as slander.  Hence the reason I try to remove such posts on this forum.

Any way, I messaged Dick and he's responded and removed the items from listing and is getting further opinions on them.