Australasian Coin & Banknote Magazine

[nealeffendi]

I ended up going the subscription route. $199 for 11 issues isn't cheap but I'm not a Fred who has multiple hobbies to buy mags for. Plus as an "amateur" the online back issues are handy for research.

[fred lever]

Gweid,

88 pages total in magazine.
 1 page ad Imperial, 2 pages Roxbury ads.
Guess you better buy a copy and check it out.

Fred.

[Basilstate]

I ended up going the subscription route. $199 for 11 issues isn't cheap but I'm not a Fred who has multiple hobbies to buy mags for. Plus as an "amateur" the online back issues are handy for research.

Sounds like 'amateur' struck a nerve but a lot of the articles over the years were,they belong in a Coin Club magazine at best, or posted on here.

It was better reading than nothing but i hope the new magazine,haven't read it yet,is more professional in its text and content.My 2c.

[nealeffendi]

Mine came today, express post. Only subscribed on Sunday.
And yes Fred, the "amateur" bit gets me. Nothing worse than seeing stuff by so called "professionals"  (dealers, mint officials, museum curators) being full of silly errors, bad assumptions and whatnot. At least us "amateur's" do the research with passion and frequently with larger collections and reference files.
Most of the interesting articles in CAB were by "amateur's" as they were usually on real coins and not grannybait new mint issues.
A bit strange that the Roxbury ad was for an auction at the beginning of the month (1st-3rd) when very few would see it in time.

[Basilstate]

Mine came today, express post. Only subscribed on Sunday.
And yes Fred, the "amateur" bit gets me. Nothing worse than seeing stuff by so called "professionals"  (dealers, mint officials, museum curators) being full of silly errors, bad assumptions and whatnot. At least us "amateur's" do the research with passion and frequently with larger collections and reference files.
Most of the interesting articles in CAB were by "amateur's" as they were usually on real coins and not grannybait new mint issues.
A bit strange that the Roxbury ad was for an auction at the beginning of the month (1st-3rd) when very few would see it in time.

Don't take it personally Neale,i was talking about the Mag. in general over a 20 year+ period,some good issues with interesting topics but a lot of poor topics as well,just ego related rehashed topics/scripts that present opinions as fact and shouldn't be included in a magazine you have to buy.  
One of my peeves is pre-Dec Mintage figures being presented as facts,they are an estimates.
In the 1960's it was generally accepted by Dealers the 1925 penny mintage was wrong and grossly underestimated,this kind of faded away after 1966 as Dealers were making money out of this 'rare' Coin.
It was a low mintage year but 117,000 is ridiculous,its probably around 500,000 based on its availability.
David Briggs stated it was minted prior to Xmas 1925,Bill Mullett in his 1996 book said they were minted in 1926 ,who's correct or are they both correct?.

Just my 2c and my opinion.
I've been collecting Coins since 1960 but as a hobby,i don't regard myself as an expert or authority in any way but some of the rubbish published over the last 20-30 years is astounding.

[Greg McDonald]

Hi Basil,
The best way to stop myths and errors from being past on from publication to publication is to man up and publish an article that sets the record straight once and for all.  Even if you don't consider yourself an author, a list of corrections in point form is better than nothing.  Some readers have been puzzled that I either start a post or follow one set up by someone else that highlights errors in my pocketbook.
No one deliberately writes books, or articles with known errors or mistakes, but unlike critics, such writers and authors are just human beings with the usual faults of often believing what they are told or read elsewhere.  If someone points out an error in one of my books, you can be assured it won't reappear in the next book.  Nothing galls me more than a puffed-up expert going public to criticise some error I have made, but doesn't do the decent thing to contact me personally so I can fix the error. Conversely, anyone who cannot be bothered to fix errors, or pretend they don't make mistakes, also doesn't have a place in publishing numismatics material.  Whether they are regarded as "amateurs" or whatever; anyone who tries to share knowledge for the greater good of the hobby should be appreciated rather than be denigrated as being some sort of chain-smoking pedophile. Remember the world is full of statues honouring explorers, artists, writers and scientists etc - but so far, none for Critics!

[autocoupler]

 Remember the world is full of statues honouring explorers, artists, writers and scientists etc - but so far, none for Critics!

Hi Greg, no criticism of you, but disciples of the crazy far left in other parts have been knocking over the odd statue lately, won't be surprised to see a push for the erection of same to celebrate protagonists and anarchists. I don't think they teach history in schools anymore, so all sorts of rhetoric prevails.

[fred lever]

Hi Neal, and all, Australia Post finally coughed up my subscription issue of the new CAB.
I would expect that everybody in Australia on a subs list or buying from a paper shop would have theirs by now.
Possibly you all could all set me straight on that, I would not want to get a fact wrong when I write a review, or an opinion article on the new mag!

How about you Basil, had a read yet?
What do you think?
I value your opinion.

Cheers, Fred.

[Basilstate]

Hi Fred,Thanks,haven't read it yet but i saw the local Newsagent and she is chasing up a copy,i might bite the bullet and get a subscription,only thing we might be moving so see what happens there before i commit.

Hi Greg,i do throw my 2c in on various pre-Dec. subjects but usually on here and CC.,also verbally with various Dealers over the years.
My Niece is a Journo and she is compiling a Book on the 1930 Penny on behalf of an aged family friend who was a Stamp/Coin Dealer post WW11.I might submit a draft later this year to the new mag to see what the reaction is.

[Greg McDonald]

HI Basil,  I am pleased you didn't take anything I said personally. I comment you on doing a book on the 1930 penny. Some time ago Fred put me straight on the origins of the 1930 I just accepted as fact. Once you've beenntold off by Fred there is no going back LOL!  Someone with the amount of knowledge you must have acquired would be welcome in a book.  When DR Bill Mira based away I went to the auction selling his estate.  I just zeroed in on the fabulous collection of coin club newsletters going back to the late 1940's from clubs all around Australia.  It will take years to read each and everyone but I've come across some really wonderful Stuff I'll put into book form at some stage.  After Dion Skiller sold his book rights to Renniks, he called me to see if I wanted all the numismatic corresponded be had built up from the 1950s.  I have letters from Dion to the Indian mints about 1942/43 restrict proof; Letters to various numismatics regarding the recently discovered 1916 mule.  All these items put a different slant on what has come down through the years.  When you are ready to promote your book Basil, I'd like to offer you a free half-page advert in whatever book I'm doing at the time to promote it.
Kind Regards, Greg

[Basilstate]

Thanks Greg,kind words.
It will have to morph into a slightly bigger focus at this stage to try and fill the pages but my Niece is a very clever wordsmith so see how we go.

[fred lever]

Basil I would be happy to do a reading and comment at  draft level on any section  of the book or the whole.

Having written much about the 1930 and cranked out a book on coins I know how much effort and time goes into the job.
Where the experiences of somebody involved in the trade goes, getting it down on paper for all to find out about is so important.
So many people have passed with not a trace left behind of the experience and knowledge of a life time.

Cheers, Fred.

[Basilstate]

Basil I would be happy to do a reading and comment at  draft level on any section  of the book or the whole.

Having written much about the 1930 and cranked out a book on coins I know how much effort and time goes into the job.
Where the experiences of somebody involved in the trade goes, getting it down on paper for all to find out about is so important.
So many people have passed with not a trace left behind of the experience and knowledge of a life time.

Cheers, Fred.

Thanks Fred.
At this stage it will be later this year,having problems getting Dealers/Numismatists to go on record.
The the main difference from your CaB article is the release date,general consensus is they weren't released in 1930/31 as they would have been ID in a heartbeat by Dealers/Numismatic Societies and Coin collectors in general.
I know some heavyweights have gone on record as saying this is when they were released.

At this stage we 'think'(no proof yet so still a theory) they were released late 1930's,when we went to the Kangaroo,or during the Coin shortage of the early 1940's.They first turned up in Sydney during the early 1940's but that doesn't mean they weren't released elsewhere earlier.
We are trying to track down Numismatic Society of NSW Newsletters from the the late l940/1950's as apparently the 1930 Penny got a lot of attention.
Gilbert Heyde and his cronies were scooping up every 1930 Penny they could find around this time.

[fred lever]

Hi Basil, the other puzzle is why,   apparently,    the main dealer action with flogging 1930's started in Sydney?
You would think the coins would have been released in  Melbourne first, being where the Mint was at the time.
Seemingly there was little dealer action in Melbourne in the early stages?

You know me, I'll just go with common sense and logic about anything.

Cheers, Fred.

[Basilstate]

Hi Basil, the other puzzle is why,   apparently,    the main dealer action with flogging 1930's started in Sydney?
You would think the coins would have been released in  Melbourne first, being where the Mint was at the time.
Seemingly there was little dealer action in Melbourne in the early stages?

You know me, I'll just go with common sense and logic about anything.

Cheers, Fred.

Hi Fred..
Yes,lots of quandaries,apparently Phil Downie stated in print he didn't see a 1930 Penny until 1948(49?) but trying to verify this is a nightmare.
The Auctions in Sydney were mainly Gilbert Heyde,they were onto the 1930 Penny during the war,apparently at one stage he had over 30 of them.
I read in the 1960's that the Public,& a couple of agents for large US Dealers,who were chasing 1930 Pennies were 20 years too late but like lots of hearsay trying to verify this is near impossible but i'm still trying.