Australasian Coin & Banknote Magazine

[Basilstate]

 The new ACR will find out just why the old magazines had a slew of editors, sub editors, fact checkers, legals, that sort of thing you just cannot have  nowadays for a viable monthly low circulation mag. Different if you are a daily news paper. Or a yearly Journal, those should be absolutely impeccable in fact checking and references.

Fred.

Hi Fred,my Niece has some exotic SW on her laptop,spelling,punctuation,paragraphs and with 'Google Facts' makes it very easy to churn out a story.
Point being Mag. Editors have it easy these days,all the work is done by the SW.

Neale..good find by Crellin of the 1945 NSW NS article.I agree with the time line,1942-45,just needs some fine tuning,Coin went from myth to fact.It was reported Heyde found his first Coin early 1940's,he may have had a couple by 1945 but will need a verification of some kind.
The whole focus of the NSW NS from early 1940's to the 1950's was the 1930 Penny,members spent W/ends doing nothing but sort Coins  for years on end.Vast majority of Coins were found in Sydney,Brisbane & Melb. were time wasters.

Family friend who was a Dealer in the 1950/60's knew Heyde and said he was an old fox,if he said he had over 30 1930 Pennies he probably had double that.The 38 figure was from one Dealer and needs verification.
The NSW NS used to run Coin Auctions and they always had a 1930 Penny,or 2,in the lisings.
Heyde,Flemming and their Cronies made a killing with the 1930,who knows how many they found.

[Greg McDonald]

Just wondering ifs we can keep to topic - Magazine?

Maybe a separate blog for the 1930 penny - some interesting comments which I think would be easier to follow if grouped together ... just Sayin'

[fred lever]

Interesting point about google driven software writing articles.
It is becoming a huge problem in Academia.
The editor of Silicon Chip monthly  illustrated this perfectly by "writing" an Editorial  page for a recent  issue.
The editorial was on point to the subject, and just about perfect, but not written by a human!
He used a "robot" automatic writing google style app to do the job.
Just fill the program boxes with the subject, how many words and a few other details and bingo minutes later you have a prefect article / paper.

I have read tech articles by writers that are near perfect to read, except when google AI has put is a series of words and you see text from a paper you have read or worse still written.
What a coincidence!! It is like being quoted with no attribution but the scum have gone well past that point.
That is why an editor may prefer to print a bit of a scrappy opinion article from a part time amateur as myself, over a pitch perfect, on point dissertation, full cross indexed and referenced.
Writers with styles and foibles are to be preferred. if you read a paper or article and there is a certain monotony and lifelessness to the perfection, beware.

If I write some dribble on about , say, fake concocted coins (now there is an idea for the new  ACR)  I can go out into the work shop with hammer, anvil, press and lathe and knock up some rare Mint errors. (ok I have already done it back years ago for CAB). The editor back then knew I was a real person and the article was kosher.

Full academic papers are different level up from magazines and  you can  feel sorry for editors or markers reading a pitch perfect paper when they know the writer is a idiot.
Any way that's a different world from writing for magazines and I will continue to write and write and submit,  and every now and then i will score a printing.
Thats a ego boost.
You can be sure there were no robots in the major writers that were used for CAB.
There is a theory that old stiffs like me should relax and let the robots and google take over I am not going along with it.
No way!
I'm rambling again.

More people, let me know about the first and second issue magazine issues and what you think.
Fred.

[Basilstate]

Just wondering ifs we can keep to topic - Magazine?

Maybe a separate blog for the 1930 penny - some interesting comments which I think would be easier to follow if grouped together ... just Sayin'

They will eventually migrate to a '1930 Penny' Thread Greg.

We were discussing the 1930 article in ACR so really not that much OT,its attracted a lot of attention up our way,Hobby collectors thou.,,no experts or Dealers.

I was going to save it for our Book but will throw it in here for comments.
By-product of the frantic 10 year+(1945-55) search for the 1930 was the 1925 Penny,NSW NS & Dealers mainly,found them by the thousands,Dealers had shoeboxes full of them and that was just Sydney.
Suddenly this 'scarce' Coin wasn't so scarce and questions were raised of the official Mintage figures but not one Dealer broke ranks,they all were sold at the going rate ,10-20 Shillings for an average eg., and that continued into the 1960's when no questions were raised about the Mintage figures.

[fred lever]

Well Basil, there you go, why not trot out an article on the 1925 penny for ACR?

I had a go at it, (ref CAB 2018 vol21-06 Neal).
I picked Dr Briggs' brain and padded out a 9 page, 16,000 word 30 illustration  article.
That was about 15 hour  edit time to compose the article.
The research time by Dr. Briggs would have been unending hours assembling information and research of Mint reports, VRO units and his personal coin collection.

That may all sound impressive, BUT the article was pretty limited to  a "varieties and errors" point of view.
You could have a very different point of view using your knowledge of the Australian coin collecting scene and coin associations, dealers etc.
That experience would make a cracking article discussing the trading of the 1925 at collector and club level over the years.
As i pointed out in the Briggs article we only scratched the surface and there must be much more to tell about the 1925.

This all about point of view and I and others tend to get buried in writing articles from the engineering master / hub / die point of view.
There is plenty of room to do what I cannot, the point of view of someone actually involved in the coin scene over the years.

Cheers, Fred.

[Basilstate]

Hi Fred,just reiterating the views of a couple of Dealers from the 1950's,they felt the official 1925 Mintage figures were wrong,no doubt it was a low mintage year but the Mintage was probaly closer to,or even higher,than the 1946.
To find evidence and proof is another matter,perhaps there was another run from the Melb. Mint in 1926 or the Sydney Mint did have the 1925 Reverse die and churned out a few Thousand.

Anyway as Greg said we should get back on topic,our little group up here in Northern NSW enjoyed reading it and definitely shows promise.

[Mister T]

Still no April issue yet?

[nealeffendi]

Hi Mr T. As it's a Saturday and the first of the month would the hard copies be in the mail? Now for those that get the digital online version is it up yet?

[Mister T]

It wasn't up digitally that I could see when I checked yesterday.

[nealeffendi]

Presuming the digital online copy is ready for when the draft is sent to the printer for the print version it is a bit slack that you didn't get it on the morning of the 1st. Being a weekend shouldn't make a difference as the release to digital subscribers can be pre set for 00:01 on the 1st.
BTW is the online version an exact copy of the printed version?

[Mister T]

I assume it's the same.

Look like it's up now - it wasn't when I looked on the weekend.

[nealeffendi]

Got my printed copy on the 6th. Articles are generally good. Still a few typos such as in the Bangladesh banknote article the president was titled both sheik and sheikh.
To me the pages with puzzles are pointless, maybe they attract novice level collectors?
Biggest personal gripe (probably Freds and a few others as well) is the lack of pre decimal articles. maybe that's my/others fault for not writing more research up to publish.

[fred lever]

Neal, you were lucky, Australia NonPost had not delivered any mail to our street for 12 days.
No folks I am not living up a tree or at Uppercumback, simply Toongabbie 2146  in Sydney .
The postie delivered a big hand full today, AP was obviously keeping it warm somewhere.
I nearly bought an issue of ACR at the local newsagent just to read it!
So if your susbs issue has not yet arrived blame AustNonPost.

I  still have trouble reading the faint text, possibly I need to go to Specsavers, or, have the cataracts removed.
That font is not my favourite or anybody else's for readability.
The content I guess is up to the editor, he has to craft the magazine to suit the readership and boost circulation.

Neal, you and I and Basil and co are fossils it seems.
If I post a comment on a pre-decimal coin on this forum usually about 3 people have anything to say.
On that basis I would say that pre-decimal coins are dead to talk about.
Of course anything about 1930 , 1925 pennies and the like will always be printed because they are what's in the catalogue are they not? ...don't get me started!!!!!
Anyway, early days I look forward to the next issue.
Fred.

[Unicorn]

Pre-Decimal is alive and well here Fred. It just keeps getting moth balled by other nonsense in life :-) I read basically every post on here as it comes in, sometimes I comment if I've got something I feel worth saying. (Sometimes I post nonsense in the hope that Jeff and Pedro will read it). Get the cataracts done Fred! I had spontaneous ones in both eyes removed a fair way back now, along with 2 detached retinas fixed and my eyesight is fabulous. (Was always short sighted, but only wear reading glasses now). I have been going to pop you a message on here for a fair while, which I will still do when time permits. It's purely pre-decimal production related. (Melbourne Mint). I'm feeling that your knowledge on the subject may be beneficial in my research. (A pet project of about 8 years now).

[Unicorn]

Perhaps when I've completed my research it may be worthy of an article in the magazine. (Don't hold your breath though)