Rare/Scarce Decimal coins

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stevo1962

Quote from: 'Coins from Vending' pid='54515' dateline='1405169107'taking ppl advice here I just bought 5 of these at $45 a roll, wonder if I should go and buy more?? Today I say nah, but in years to come will I kick myself?????

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Yeah I bought a total of 5 rolls also and I think that's enough as I wouldn't like to put too much into 1 thing in case they don't do as well as predicted
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interest

So how many have we come up with?
That is Rare/Scarce Decimal coins?

autocoupler

Quote from: 'interest' pid='54518' dateline='1405170914'So how many have we come up with?
That is Rare/Scarce Decimal coins?

Looks like 2014 MOR dollar rolls at the mo :angel::blush: Just one comment though. These rolls are selling for $35 through some dealers.
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interest

Quote from: 'autocoupler' pid='54520' dateline='1405173606'
Quote from: 'interest' pid='54518' dateline='1405170914'So how many have we come up with?
That is Rare/Scarce Decimal coins?

Looks like 2014 MOR dollar rolls at the mo :angel::blush: Just one comment though. These rolls are selling for $35 through some dealers.
NAH,, there not scarce or rare.
Pick them up any where for $35, how does make them scarce or rare?

Getting back to the 2005 Proof MOR with no more than 50 made,
THAT'S SCARCE & RARE.
Nobody has been able to beat that yet.

markn

QuoteNAH,, there not scarce or rare.
Pick them up any where for $35, how does make them scarce or rare?

Getting back to the 2005 Proof MOR with no more than 50 made,
THAT'S SCARCE & RARE.
Nobody has been able to beat that yet.

UNC 1966 wavy 20's?  Not too many of them around but not as hard as the 2005 proof MOR.  UNC incuse 50's?  Hard to find one of those.
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trout

Quote from: 'markn' pid='54528' dateline='1405204783'
QuoteNAH,, there not scarce or rare.
Pick them up any where for $35, how does make them scarce or rare?

Getting back to the 2005 Proof MOR with no more than 50 made,
THAT'S SCARCE & RARE.
Nobody has been able to beat that yet.

UNC 1966 wavy 20's?  Not too many of them around but not as hard as the 2005 proof MOR.  UNC incuse 50's?  Hard to find one of those.

:agreed:
Some of the scarce/common coins can become a "rarity" simply because of their state of preservation.
How many MS66 and above incused 50cent peices will have survived?
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purplepennyhunter

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The scalloped 20c Unico had for sale sold recently for just under 20k. (see Emu's example page 1 of this thread) They bought it out of Downies and had it graded by PCGS (MS-something).
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serial

would you consider the scallop a rare coin or rare error?

markn

Quote from: 'serial' pid='54543' dateline='1405215304'would you consider the scallop a rare coin or rare error?

Both :)
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autocoupler

Just playing devils advocate here, and thinking about some of the mint sport coins that attract sizable figures at auction. These are as close to fakes as you could get IMHO.
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markn

Quote from: 'autocoupler' pid='54547' dateline='1405215945'Just playing devils advocate here, and thinking about some of the mint sport coins that attract sizable figures at auction. These are as close to fakes as you could get IMHO.

I agree with you, especially with regard to the double obverse/reverse coins that are purported to be mint-sport.  I'm pretty certain the scalloped 20's are real errors though rather than being sport.  I'd LOVE to own one.
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nealeffendi

Quote from: 'autocoupler' pid='54547' dateline='1405215945'Just playing devils advocate here, and thinking about some of the mint sport coins that attract sizable figures at auction. These are as close to fakes as you could get IMHO.

By mint sports you mean foreign orders (coins made surreptitiously by mint staff and smuggled out to sell to collectors). If so then they are not fakes but illegal to own. Overseas collectors have had many such illegally obtained coins seized ( the US double eagle being the most famous example of this).
IIRC the federal police here have seized foreign orders from auctions and dealers. Anyone recall specific examples?

autocoupler

Quote from: 'markn' pid='54549' dateline='1405216209'I'm pretty certain the scalloped 20's are real errors though rather than being sport.  I'd LOVE to own one.

Me too :drooling: Just wondering what they were selling for 12 years ago when I started to become serious about the hobby. At the risk of going off topic again ha ha EMU666 was one of my first contacts back them. Thanks Peter.
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markn

Quote from: 'autocoupler' pid='54551' dateline='1405216793'
Quote from: 'markn' pid='54549' dateline='1405216209'I'm pretty certain the scalloped 20's are real errors though rather than being sport.  I'd LOVE to own one.

Me too :drooling: Just wondering what they were selling for 12 years ago when I started to become serious about the hobby. At the risk of going off topic again ha ha EMU666 was one of my first contacts back them. Thanks Peter.

Mine too.  I may be totally off-base but my memory of 7 or 8 years back was $5-6k for a scalloped 20 when one or two came onto the market in the early 2000's.  Anyone who has held one for a decade or more is likely to do very well when they get rid of them.  It'd be nice if emu666 would chime in here with his perceived change in value of this important coin as it's fairly well accepted that he knows as much about them as anyone.
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SULLA

Quote from: 'markn' pid='54470' dateline='1405120197'
Quote from: 'SULLA' pid='54467' dateline='1405118840'I believe the coins are not rolled by or at the RAM. RAM subcontracted the rolling some years ago to an external source.
The wrappers are the same as used by a security company associated with TOLL.

As the RAM has not rolled for some time, I doubt they would re-establish a rolling facilty for only 5000 rolls.
I will find out more on Monday.


I thought the same as you but I (like you) was wrong.  The RAM has already confirmed through at least two different mediums that they ARE rolling the coins themselves.  Perhaps you should read the thread on this forum about the 2014 rolls.

Thank you markn.

I have searched the forum for "2014 rolls" but cannot find such a thread. Can you provide a link, please.

Many thanks.