Rare/Scarce Decimal coins

Started by trout, June 28, 2014, 07:10:44 PM

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Ozcoins

This makes no sense to me....
You are saying this coin is more desirable/valuable tgan a dollar mule?
How many 1985 50c were made and what are they worth nearly 30 years later?

serial

A quick search finds a roll recently sold for $202 not bad after only 25 years and a coin found in mint sets now let's look at the 1968 2 cent rolls they sell for over $1k if you can find one.
I agree with sulla that this is a marketing ploy by ram. Create a new "monster" collectable coin like the mule then hope that the ensuing publicity it gets in the following years ignites a new rush to coin collecting. Cash in on the new blood entering the market trying to get in on the next 2014 mor by selling them " low mintage" stuff like they do now. I see ram rolls making a comeback soon

trout

QuoteHow many 1985 50c were made and what are they worth nearly 30 years later?

Mintage of 30,000 and a coin in this condition MS66 Is still only valued at $70.



The 2014 MOR is a far more common coin and with 5000 rolls of 20 coins Minimum there will be a plethora of high grade coins available.

QuoteThis is rare; this is scarce and this will become the most sought after decimal coin ever released so far.

This statement is simply absurd :ok:
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stevo1962

Quote from: 'SULLA' pid='54388' dateline='1405046586'
Quote from: 'stevo1962' pid='54362' dateline='1404992851'These have got to be better value than a roll of $1 MOR 2014

   http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/161352774595?
$680 better value than $36.50??

LOL!!
 

These 20 cent coins are potentially worth $400 each and probably at least $80 each on average so $680 is a bargain IMO but at this stage we dont really know what collectors will pay for the 2014 MOR $1 once the initial frenzy is finished
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markn

I think that the truth lies somewhere south of what Sulla and Serial would like us to believe (given that they are both proven roll hoarders I'd hardly call them un-biased).  That being said I am sure if you can get them at the right price and you're willing to sit on them for a while you may well do better than bank interest.
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SULLA

Quote from: 'trout' pid='54391' dateline='1405051253'
QuoteHow many 1985 50c were made and what are they worth nearly 30 years later?

Mintage of 30,000 and a coin in this condition MS66 Is still only valued at $70.



The 2014 MOR is a far more common coin and with 5000 rolls of 20 coins Minimum there will be a plethora of high grade coins available.

QuoteThis is rare; this is scarce and this will become the most sought after decimal coin ever released so far.

This statement is simply absurd :ok:

What exactly has a MINTAGE of only 30,000 fish?

WOOHOOO!!
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WHO WOULD HAVE THUNK IT!!

:)

markn

Quote from: 'SULLA' pid='54397' dateline='1405053207'What exactly has a MINTAGE of only 30,000 fish?

The 2005 COA 50c.

Bad example anyway trout, 30,000 for an NCLT coin like this is a HUGE mintage.  A 1,000,000 mintage circulation coin is likely to be far scarcer in GEM than an NCLT coin with a mintage of 30,000.  That being said, the fact that RAM rolls exist for the 2014 MOR dollars makes it more likely that there'll be more gem coins around.
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Unicorn

Quote from: 'serial' pid='54383' dateline='1405041955'I am Autistic so it shouldn't come as a surprise that I don't actually know what you mean by that Unicorn.

I meant purely what was said in the clip  ......which was ..... light heartedly ........ "surely you can't be serious".

I referred that to your comment about you wanting to swap one of your 2014 MOR rolls for someone else's 2000 MOR roll.

My congratulations go out to you as there is no way one would assume you have Autism by your clear and concise ability to express yourself in written communication.

serial

Oh I get it now that's funny. Good movie BTW :)
Written is easy. I am able to re read what I am saying and take my time to say things the right way. Verbal is hard. I am constantly washing the taste of my foot out of my mouth. Hence why I don't really meet up with people at attend collecting event. I get uncomfortable and anxious
I prefer to keep to my self

emu666

Quote from: 'markn' pid='54399' dateline='1405053921'
Quote from: 'SULLA' pid='54397' dateline='1405053207'What exactly has a MINTAGE of only 30,000 fish?

The 2005 COA 50c.

Bad example anyway trout, 30,000 for an NCLT coin like this is a HUGE mintage.  A 1,000,000 mintage circulation coin is likely to be far scarcer in GEM than an NCLT coin with a mintage of 30,000.  That being said, the fact that RAM rolls exist for the 2014 MOR dollars makes it more likely that there'll be more gem coins around.

That is an interesting point of view but is at variance with my observations.
Rolled (or bagged) 2011, 2013 and 2014 Anzac dollar coins are very rarely gem quality. [Most of the bagging to the coins occurs during the production itself, less during the transportation phase]. The average quality is most heavily influenced by the production rate.

Out of 4000 Anzac dollar coins I examined, I selected just 30 that I thought would make MS65 (they are away on holidays now). Out of 500 2011 dollars I sent 20 but not that many will make MS65 (this is the advantage of a bulk submission). I had ten bags (200 coins) of 2013 dollars and I do not think any would grade as MS65 so none have been sent over.

markn

Quote from: 'emu666' pid='54403' dateline='1405057668'Out of 4000 Anzac dollar coins I examined, I selected just 30 that I thought would make MS65 (they are away on holidays now). Out of 500 2011 dollars I sent 20 but not that many will make MS65 (this is the advantage of a bulk submission). I had ten bags (200 coins) of 2013 dollars and I do not think any would grade as MS65 so none have been sent over.

Given that the 2014 rolls are rolled at the RAM there's an entire stage of material handling missing (RAM to security company) plus given that they are all H/T I assume they are done with a reasonable amount of care.  I'd like to think that the coins coming out of those are going to be a better than the coins I know you get out of security rolls and bags.  No doubt you'll know soon enough when you get your hands on some rolls.
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emu666

You missed this bit:

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Most of the bagging to the coins occurs during the production itself, less during the transportation phase]. The average quality is most heavily influenced by the production rate.
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markn

Quote from: 'emu666' pid='54405' dateline='1405058141'You missed this bit:

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Most of the bagging to the coins occurs during the production itself, less during the transportation phase]. The average quality is most heavily influenced by the production rate.
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I did miss it.  How do you know that?  Feeding them into drums, out of drums and putting them through rolling machines cannot be good either.
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serial

They are called bag marks for a reason. The most damage that occurs is being transported loose in bags/drums to the banks.
Anything after that is circulation damage. So we are now focussing on what will produce the gem coins. Security or ram rolls. I would have thought this obvious

emu666

OK you all know everything

I refuse to waste my time with the maganement or members of this forum any more