Rare/Scarce Decimal coins

[serial]

hhmm someone needs a snickers
the whole point of a forum is to share differing opinions to try to learn more.
don't spit the dummy, in the end you opinion is your own and no one can force you to change.
instead try to look at things from other peoples point of view and see if there is merit in their argument.
then form your opinion, you can still continue to call them idiots in your own mind but I wouldn't introduce that into a discussion.
this is how I try to look at things

[nealeffendi]

hhmm someone needs a snickers
the whole point of a forum is to share differing opinions to try to learn more.
don't spit the dummy, in the end you opinion is your own and no one can force you to change.
instead try to look at things from other peoples point of view and see if there is merit in their argument.
then form your opinion, you can still continue to call them idiots in your own mind but I wouldn't introduce that into a discussion.
this is how I try to look at things

OMG, you mean emu is Alf Stewart?
Peter needs to take a break to Summer Bay (I don't know how anybody lives in Victoria in July,frigid Melbourne would turn anyone into a cranky bugger)

[trout]

I refuse to waste my time with the maganement or members of this forum any more

Oh dear I think somebody needs a HUG :angel:
I can see where Feathers is coming from with the circulation issue coins.
They are treated rather badly when they come off the press and are damned hard to find in high MS state regardless of how they are distributed (Bags, Rolls Bulk bags ) because very little care is taken to preserve the coins integrity at the minting stage.
Proof , NCLT and up to a point Mint set coins are treated far better.
That having been said the coin I received from AC should make MS65 and will be sent away with my Silver proofs.
Feathers selects coins to send away to be graded as part of his job and is rather good at it and people that want to tell him how to "Suck Eggs "really irritate him  :ok:

[purplepennyhunter]

We can get back on topic now. Peter is a damn fine grader, numismatist and knows what he's doing when it comes to picking a top grade coin. This is not about the discussion in this thread. Lets move on.

[trout]

Peter is a damn fine grader, numismatist and knows what he's doing when it comes to picking a top grade coin

:agreed:

The grade of the decimal coins ARE what will make them rare and separate them from the others.
ANY MS/PR 70 Decimal coin IMHO is as rare as hens teeth, Regardless of the mintage's  .

[Goldseeker]

If emu666 is leaving us then this forum is losing a very knowledgeable numismatist.   I trust that he will come back and stay with us.   We all have different opinions on anything and everything but that shouldn't cause concern and make people leave the discussion group that I find that this forum is.

Now back to the original topic:   I would dearly love to open the two rolls I have here but I am not game enough too.   I shall have to wait a while until I get my single coins to be examined in hand.

[trout]

I would dearly love to open the two rolls I have here but I am not game enough too. I shall have to wait a while until I get my single coins to be examined in hand.

I strongly suggest you get a range of MOR coins in grades MS65 to MS69 as a reference so that you can judge for yourself the grades of your own coins.
These are available at budget prices IF you look for the cheap years :ok:

[robbiegal]

Rolled (or bagged) 2011, 2013 and 2014 Anzac dollar coins are very rarely gem quality. [Most of the bagging to the coins occurs during the production itself, less during the transportation phase]. The average quality is most heavily influenced by the production rate.

I think that this is what Emu is talking about


http://youtu.be/hqyWbyr8ZOc

ps that last store room/ lift below is where they had the basement session with Paul mc Dermot this year - it was VERY cool

[serial]

wow nice link robbiegirl! thanks a heap for that, I hadn't seen that before
and emu I hope you took my message the right way, I was simply trying to express my opinion on the matter based on what I have seen within the banking system and the total disregard that they have for coins. I thought no one could treat coins worse than them. that vid that Robbie linked has changed my mind on that a bit!!!
however at what point in the manufacture do you think ram remove the coins for rolling?

[robbiegal]

out of the drums i'd presume
they'd have the weight numbers and then go for it

or as PP and I saw on the RAM minting room tour they could be taken from the big square containers that look like fruit shop pallet sized boxes

I am not aware of the RAM here in Canberra having rolling facilities on site though

others may know differently I am sure

here are some of the pics from the tour
titan was resting
blanks barrels

struck coins

delicate (?)  sorting tray


$1 coins


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I think these were $2 coins

[Nevol]

Thanks for that excellent link robbie. :good:   Now I understand why the vast majority of brand new circulated coins look like they've been through a chaff cutter. Poor buggers don't stand a chance getting bashed around from pillar to post. :dontknow:

It's also obvious that there is a totally separate 'procedure' for coins that go into Mint Sets where at least a little care is taken etc.

[SULLA]

I believe the coins are not rolled by or at the RAM. RAM subcontracted the rolling some years ago to an external source.
The wrappers are the same as used by a security company associated with TOLL.

As the RAM has not rolled for some time, I doubt they would re-establish a rolling facilty for only 5000 rolls.
I will find out more on Monday.

[markn]

I believe the coins are not rolled by or at the RAM. RAM subcontracted the rolling some years ago to an external source.
The wrappers are the same as used by a security company associated with TOLL.

As the RAM has not rolled for some time, I doubt they would re-establish a rolling facilty for only 5000 rolls.
I will find out more on Monday.

I thought the same as you but I (like you) was wrong.  The RAM has already confirmed through at least two different mediums that they ARE rolling the coins themselves.  Perhaps you should read the thread on this forum about the 2014 rolls.

[robbiegal]

ok will do
I missed that too

[Coins from Vending]

taking ppl advice here I just bought 5 of these at $45 a roll, wonder if I should go and buy more?? Today I say nah, but in years to come will I kick myself??

Talk to me?