Rare/Scarce Decimal coins

trout · June 28, 2014, 07:10:44 PM

Are there any truly rare Decimal coins ?
In my opinion the only rare ones are the super high grade examples more than the low mintage coins.

robbiegal · June 28, 2014, 07:19:53 PM

Quote from: 'trout' pid='53645' dateline='1403948444'Are there any truly rare Decimal coins ?
In my opinion the only rare ones are the super high grade examples more than the low mintage coins.

1969 specimen 50c the famous Yarralumla PNC one

markn · June 28, 2014, 07:22:15 PM

Quote from: 'trout' pid='53645' dateline='1403948444'Are there any truly rare Decimal coins ?
In my opinion the only rare ones are the super high grade examples more than the low mintage coins.

I don't believe any deliberately released decimal coins are rare. The lowest mintage decimal coins would be various coins out of the gold proof sets. And the 1c and 2c coins from the heritage set. Then there's the truly rare things like patterns, mules (like the 1977 COA rather than the 2000 $1/10c), and weird errors like the bi-metal 20c and $1.

trout · June 28, 2014, 07:34:43 PM

Quote1969 specimen 50c the famous Yarralumla PNC one

With 2000 specimen coins minted for this year the coin itself is NOT rare , the packaging is.
I you took one of these out of the packaging now it would be barely recognizable as a specimen coin and would look just like the other 14 million coins minted that year for circulation.
I would think a 1969 50 cent graded at MS70 would be a far rarer coin .

markn · June 28, 2014, 07:39:59 PM

Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='53646' dateline='1403948993'
Quote from: 'trout' pid='53645' dateline='1403948444'Are there any truly rare Decimal coins ?
In my opinion the only rare ones are the super high grade examples more than the low mintage coins.

1969 specimen 50c the famous Yarralumla PNC one

That's one I'd forgotten about. Certainly a LOT harder to get than most other decimals. There's the 1966 Perth 1c too but that's more of a conditional rarity.

trout · June 28, 2014, 07:44:13 PM

Would anyone seriously pay $1500 for a coin in this Sad state ?
Without the envelope this would be worth 50 cents :ok:

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Nuphil-Nu27-PNC-Australia-1969-50c-Coin-1st-Day-Issue-Yarralumla-50-cent-coin-/171357215760?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item27e5af9c10

markn · June 28, 2014, 07:53:39 PM

Quote from: 'trout' pid='53651' dateline='1403950453'Would anyone seriously pay $1500 for a coin in this Sad state ?
Without the envelope this would be worth 50 cents :ok:

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Nuphil-Nu27-PNC-Australia-1969-50c-Coin-1st-Day-Issue-Yarralumla-50-cent-coin-/171357215760?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item27e5af9c10

Still worth $300 or so without the envelope. It's far more scarce than a VC dollar, or the VC $10 coin, or a 2000 mule for that matter.

trout · June 28, 2014, 07:57:34 PM

QuoteStill worth $300 or so without the envelope. It's far more scarce than a VC dollar, or the VC $10 coin, or a 2000 mule for that matter.

Looks like there is a heap of environmental damage on that eBay coin.
How could you tell that it was a "Specimen" coin from a circulating coin "In Hand" ?

The 50 cent coin I would consider as rare would be the 1988 trial pattern Parliament House coin

Australian coin · June 28, 2014, 08:02:08 PM

o dude I hear these were rare ones

1983 -84 platypus mint and proof set
1985 20c platypus - low mintage
1986 - 1992 platypus mint and proof set only
1995 20c platypus - mint and proof sets
2003 20c platypus - not made don't wet yourself
wavy 20c

2005 50c coat of arms - pnc only

$1 mule

the dollar mule website has pretty pics >> haven't been over there for a long time will have to have a nice looksee

http://dollarmule.com.au/index.html

I this is sooo cool

robbiegal · June 28, 2014, 08:03:10 PM

when you have the two issues side by side - the yarraluma coin looks very different to the other business strike

trout · June 28, 2014, 08:04:57 PM

That scalloped 20 cents would defiantly get a Guernsey as being a rare decimal coin :good:

robbiegal · June 28, 2014, 08:06:57 PM

I think that misstrikes or error planchets are another category for rarity?

Australian coin · June 28, 2014, 08:07:34 PM

>>http://www.australian-threepence.com/blog/2010/02/exciting-new-australian-dollar-coin-discovery.html

wrong planchet

there was a cool 2002 50c windmill design on a wrong planchet but cant find the pic, I know it was on SS, but for the life of me cant remember where

Ozcoins · June 28, 2014, 11:29:59 PM

I might have to look up the definitions, but to me a unique/one off examples like the bimetal $1 above does not qualify as "rare".
To me "rare" means that there are multiples, but they are hard to get hold of.
If you were to categorise a "complete" collection, the unique coins could not be part of it as no one can realistically hope to get hold of them.

Fr45h3R · June 29, 2014, 02:45:52 PM

Quote from: 'markn' pid='53648' dateline='1403949135'
Quote from: 'trout' pid='53645' dateline='1403948444'Are there any truly rare Decimal coins ?
In my opinion the only rare ones are the super high grade examples more than the low mintage coins.

I don't believe any deliberately released decimal coins are rare. The lowest mintage decimal coins would be various coins out of the gold proof sets. And the 1c and 2c coins from the heritage set. Then there's the truly rare things like patterns, mules (like the 1977 COA rather than the 2000 $1/10c), and weird errors like the bi-metal 20c and $1.

Are the Heritage sets listed in the catalogs yet ?
I've seen a set come up every now and then on eBay. Last one sold for around $1300 I think, and @ $2100 one went unsold.