1922 3d .Overdate or what..??e

Basil · February 15, 2014, 09:11:56 PM

This was in a bulk buy of Silver,i always check for the elusive overdate and found what appears to be something under the last 2,its not a 1 and appears not to be a re-entered date. Any thoughts?,anyone seen this before or is it just a normal 1922 3d?. TIA

Goldseeker · February 15, 2014, 10:10:18 PM

Until someone else puts up a reason, I would say an ordinary 1922 Trey (Threepenny) piece.

interest · February 15, 2014, 11:57:27 PM

That's just a normal 1922 threepence...sorry.

Basil · February 16, 2014, 08:28:34 AM

Thanks for replies,i've had the USB Microscope for a couple of years now but its the first 1922 i've looked at,previously i just used a Loupe to check for the overdate and never noticed the oblong block sitting under the tail of the 2.

Basil · February 18, 2014, 02:31:23 PM

Dog with a bone here,i'm sure there is something under the last 2 or its time to give coining away.
Photo of Coin followed by standard 1922 3d,

Standard 1922 3d.

ausjack · February 18, 2014, 02:37:44 PM

I don't know much about them sorry Basil but AC does and she showed me what to look for with the overdate but it doesn't look like one from here sorry but when she comes on she might be able to help :good:

Basil · February 18, 2014, 03:08:10 PM

Yeah AJ,its not a 21 overdate but its not a normal one either,may be a different die to the majority of the 1922 mintage,but i've had a look(not thru a Microscope thou.) at dozens of 1922 3d's over the years and i've never seen that final 2.It looks like the the top half of a 2 underneath with some sort of 1 extending at an angle from it.

Thoughts anyone or do i make a booking for the retirement home...LOL.

Robster · February 18, 2014, 04:18:51 PM

Basil, I can see what you are describing but I am at a loss for an explanation.! Checked my spares but nothing vaguely similar.! :dontknow:

Nevol · February 18, 2014, 05:00:17 PM

I can also see something there. To be honest, it looks more like the remains of a 3. Who knows, you may have stumbled across an unknown overdate, if that's what it would be called with the underneath digit one year later.

Can you wind your scope out to do a really large close up. If you're unsure how to do it, let me know & I'll see if I can take you through it.

nealeffendi · February 18, 2014, 05:42:38 PM

An overdate?:huh:
You don't need to go to a retirement home. You should have gone to Specsavers:tease:
OK there is something there but not likely to be anything important.

Quote from: 'Nevol' pid='42104' dateline='1392705017'I can also see something there. To be honest, it looks more like the remains of a 3. Who knows, you may have stumbled across an unknown overdate, if that's what it would be called with the underneath digit one year later.

Can you wind your scope out to do a really large close up. If you're unsure how to do it, let me know & I'll see if I can take you through it.

I'm scratching my head to think of a single example of a die struck with the previous years hub after being struck with the new year. I don't think the position of the 3 in relation to the 2 would end up with the "fault" under the loop of the 2.
IIRC it was for the 1924 coinage that the mint carried out work on redating hubs so I don't even think it could be explained by experimentation.

Basil · February 18, 2014, 08:34:48 PM

Quote from: 'Nevol' pid='42104' dateline='1392705017'I can also see something there. To be honest, it looks more like the remains of a 3. Who knows, you may have stumbled across an unknown overdate, if that's what it would be called with the underneath digit one year later.

Can you wind your scope out to do a really large close up. If you're unsure how to do it, let me know & I'll see if I can take you through it.

Thanks Nancy,i'll have another go at a close up,but the Microscope is an Ebay cheapie and i thought i had the close up at Max.

Thanks for all the replies but i'm sure there is part of a 2 or 3 sitting under there with what looks like to me like a thin bar going off at an angle under the tail of the 2.

Basil · February 18, 2014, 10:08:48 PM

I'll try and get some better Microscope shots Tomorrow but from this one it looks like a 3 underneath with the lower hemisphere going around the tail of the 2. Very Strange whatever it is.

Basil · February 19, 2014, 10:51:21 AM

I tried to get some super close ups but the image blurs when i press the capture button,i'll have to get a stand that holds the microscope more securely.This is the best one.Looks like the top of a 2 or 3 under the top but has a single rod running thru the bottom of the 2 and a thicker bar under the tail of the 2???.I 'dunnoe' but there is something under there compared to a normal 1922...help....

markn · February 19, 2014, 11:27:39 AM

Looks like there's something under there. Could be a three. Got a pic of a 1923 3d we can overlay on it?

Basil · February 19, 2014, 12:50:00 PM

This is a 1923 3d Mark at approx. the same resolution as the last 2,it doesn't seem to correlate in any way.
I think the 1922 may be from some test/experimental(?) die as the 2,to my eyes, is slightly different to a normal 1922 3d. I am convinced there is something there,it depends on what angle and resolution you view it from as to what it is.