Changes to PCGS Set Registry Australian Penny Sets

[r9453]

HOLD ON HERE!!
isn't it about 75 pennies for a full set?

Not according to the PCGS set registry approach, its a marketing tool as much as anything else.

so these attributed errors or various die pairing are going to mean that the collector has to secure more of the same year to complete a set
now that is BS

Not so much errors, mostly die pairs.

we accept the standard 3 X 1920's ,2 X 1919,  the H and no H , K.G or not, the dot after Y. as these indicate the mint for the year.
But having jolly, broken N's in the 1925 has an additional coin to collect is bullocks

Like I said above the 1925 Brokeback N was included for a while but was removed not long ago. It's PCGS #545374 and I assume you can include it in your registry if you have one but its no longer a requirement to complete the set.

[robbiegal]

my dansco supreme has 75
and that is what i am going to collect

i believe that the 1925 broken N is a die error and that may be why they have removed it, as it is not a die pairing per say

OK
i wondered what those + were on the pop report

might have to hunt down some scarce die pairings!!! (for fun)

[r9453]

might have to hunt down some scarce die pairings!!! (for fun)

Knock yourself out, although I reckon you might have most, some will be tough:

1   1911   Plain
2   1912   "H" mint-mark
3   1913   Plain
4   1914   Plain
5   1915   Plain
6   1915   "H" mint-mark
7   1916   "I" mint-mark
8   1917   "I" mint-mark
9   1918   "I" mint-mark
10   1919   Plain
11   1919   -/--/o Dot Below
12   1919   o/--/o Double Dot
13   1920   Plain
14   1920   -/--/o London Obv.
15   1920   -/--/o Calcutta Obv.
16   1920   o/--/- Dot Above Top
17   1920   -/-o/- London Obv.
18   1920   -/-o/- Calcutta Obv.
19   1920   o/--/o Double Dot
20   1921   Melbourne & Perth
21   1921   London obverse
22   1922   
23   1922   Calcutta obverse
24   1923   
25   1924   
26   1924   Calcutta obverse
27   1925   Broken N (die clash) B23A no longer included.
28   1926   
29   1927   
30   1927   Calcutta obverse
31   1928   
32   1929   
33   1929   Calcutta obverse
34   1930   Very rare - Calcutta obverse
35   1931   Normal "1" - London obverse
36   1931   Normal "1" - Calcutta obverse
37   1931   Dropped "1" – Calcutta obverse
38   1931   Dropped "1" – London obverse
39   1932   Plain
40   1933   Plain
41   1933   1933/2 over-date
42   1934   Plain
43   1935   Plain
44   1936   Plain
45   1938   Plain
46   1939   Plain
47   1940   Plain
48   1940   K dot G (1 of 2)
49   1941   Plain
50   1941   Y dot
51   1941   K dot G (2 of 2)
52   1942   Y dot
53   1942   "I" & .PENNY. (dots before and after)
54   1942   Sans "I" mintmark (B44A)
55   1943   Plain
56   1943   "I" & .PENNY. (dots before and after)
57   1943   Y dot
58   1943   Long Reverse Denticles (LRD) - "I" & .PENNY. (B47A)
59   1944   Plain
60   1944   Y dot
61   1945   Y dot
62   1946   Plain
63   1947   Plain
64   1947   Y dot
65   1948   Plain
66   1948   Y dot
67   1949   Plain
68   1950   Plain
69   1950   Y dot
70   1951   Plain
71   1951    PL
72   1951   Y dot
73   1952   Plain
74   1952   A dot - type G (London) rev. (common)
75   1952   A dot - type D (Melb.) rev. (scarce)
76   1953   Plain
77   1953   A dot
78   1953   Long 5, different 3 (L5D3)
79   1955   Plain
80   1955   Y dot - Type 8 (Melb.) obverse (common)
81   1955   Y dot - Type 9 (Perth) obverse (scarce)
82   1956   Plain
83   1956   Y dot
84   1957   Y dot
85   1958   Plain
86   1958   Y dot
87   1959   Plain
88   1959   Y dot
89   1960   Y dot
90   1961   Y dot
91   1962   Y dot
92   1963   Y dot
93   1964   Plain
94   1964   Y dot

[robbiegal]

GAWD
might have to copy and make a document

well i have started by long service leave vis a vie ..... retiring out
so i heaps of time ..... to play!! yippie!   and cook - i have cooked soo much stuff this week ... i need 8 children like my mother had

just checking - this is the penny list ?

[nealeffendi]

Oh so you found it Rob

From time to tome I check the number of coins required to complete a penny set (the subject of this thread). The other day I noticed it had gone from 95 to 94. The 1925 "Broken N" was removed from the list. Too bad if you went out and bought one in the mean time.

In the long run its probably for the best since its basically a damaged die rather than a different die pair.

Worse yet it was 2 different dies and the majority of the coins they slabbed were not of the correct Renniks number. As for the 1922 wide dates I think it should be included but they should all be lumped together. It would be very hard for them to identify each die unless they were perfect Unc coins.

[echidna]

Might see some DDOs in the set composition also ?

[nealeffendi]

Might see some DDOs in the set composition also ?

Oh crikey no. If they go down that path then how about the halfpennies with denticle patterns, spurs, fins, bearded queens, running nose king, shattered dies etc.
Things like thin leg 1925s are OK for them to identify on the slab but they shouldn't have a separate slot on the set registry.

[ausjack]

Yes they should have a basic list and then a separate side list for the people that want to add all the errors etc other wise it's just going too far and where does it all end :scratch_one-s_head:

[robbiegal]

what is a DDO

[echidna]

what is a DDO

Doubled Die Obverse.

[robbiegal]

oh seriously?
is that doubled legends?

[r9453]

Yes they should have a basic list and then a separate side list

:i_agree: The set is called:

Australian Pennies Complete Set with Major Varieties, Circulation Strikes (1911-1964)

http://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/composite.aspx?c=2278

There are currently 10 Australian Commonwealth penny sets. The varieties should be in a separate set.

Worse yet it was 2 different dies

Is that two different 1925 penny Brokeback N dies?

[ausjack]

Gee ya gonna have to do something about Eric as he's only one step above you Rob but your doing well mate :good:

[r9453]

Gee ya gonna have to do something about Eric as he's only one step above you Rob but your doing well mate :good:

Dude, all I have to do is buy one if his coins and his set goes down by one while my set goes up by one. :ok: I might try and catch up with him at Petersham in 4 Sundays time. :good:

EDIT: Oh and btw, see how echidna has got his primary set and another separate varieties set.

[ausjack]

Yes that's the way to do it

Yes and the way echi's doing it is how pcgs should.