Changes to PCGS Set Registry Australian Penny Sets

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emu666

PCGS have just added the 1942 Bombay missing mintmark penny to the penny sets as a required coin. Last year they included the 1919 and 1920 double dot pennies and the 1920 dot above top scroll penny to the set.

Full set composition: http://www.pcgs.com/SetRegistry/SetComposition.aspx?c=2278

Current sets: http://www.pcgs.com/SetRegistry/Composite.aspx?c=2278

nealeffendi

Hi Emu, I checked out the sets and it seems that there a a few of the variety already in the top sets.
So did they submit the coins in the past few days/weeks in anticipation of the change,OR has PCGS previously been identifying the variety (but not including it on the set list, OR have these coins been slabbed months/years ago as normal Indians and they have been reclassified retrospectively.
So how long before they do this right step for the other varieties? (English/Indian, dropped 1, '43 long, 53 different 5, 55-56 mules, 55 narrow, 57 wide, 22 wide etc).
Your '24 Indian will take a top spot if that happens (but I won't mention your '31 dropped:angel:)

autocoupler

Quote from: 'emu666' pid='41083' dateline='1391638286'PCGS have just added the 1942 Bombay missing mintmark penny to the penny sets as a required coin. Last year they included the 1919 and 1920 double dot pennies and the 1920 dot above top scroll penny to the set.

Full set composition: http://www.pcgs.com/SetRegistry/SetComposition.aspx?c=2278

Current sets: http://www.pcgs.com/SetRegistry/Composite.aspx?c=2278

Initially I made a hasty remark about the 1955Y. in the list of Timbertop as being a mule, wrong wrong wrong. So now that I've made the appropriate edit and retrieved some of my ego, can I just say how ironic it is that a world leader and often maligned third party grader is now recognising important Australian varieties when our local publications have persistently dropped the ball on this subject.
As we age we lose three things, one is our memory and arrrrr I've forgotten the other two!

markn

Quote from: 'nealeffendi' pid='41086' dateline='1391660613'Hi Emu, I checked out the sets and it seems that there a a few of the variety already in the top sets.
So did they submit the coins in the past few days/weeks in anticipation of the change,OR has PCGS previously been identifying the variety (but not including it on the set list, OR have these coins been slabbed months/years ago as normal Indians and they have been reclassified retrospectively.
So how long before they do this right step for the other varieties? (English/Indian, dropped 1, '43 long, 53 different 5, 55-56 mules, 55 narrow, 57 wide, 22 wide etc).
Your '24 Indian will take a top spot if that happens (but I won't mention your '31 dropped:angel:)

A lot of the American sets have three alternatives, one with varieties and normal coins, one without varieties, and one with just varieties and no normal coins.  Perhaps people like yourself and emu could talk to PCGS about that sort of thing?  I imagine they love the idea of new sets because it pushes people to get coins graded in and effort to complete a set.
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nealeffendi

Quote from: 'markn' pid='41093' dateline='1391674014'
Quote from: 'nealeffendi' pid='41086' dateline='1391660613'Hi Emu, I checked out the sets and it seems that there a a few of the variety already in the top sets.
So did they submit the coins in the past few days/weeks in anticipation of the change,OR has PCGS previously been identifying the variety (but not including it on the set list, OR have these coins been slabbed months/years ago as normal Indians and they have been reclassified retrospectively.
So how long before they do this right step for the other varieties? (English/Indian, dropped 1, '43 long, 53 different 5, 55-56 mules, 55 narrow, 57 wide, 22 wide etc).
Your '24 Indian will take a top spot if that happens (but I won't mention your '31 dropped:angel:)

A lot of the American sets have three alternatives, one with varieties and normal coins, one without varieties, and one with just varieties and no normal coins.  Perhaps people like yourself and emu could talk to PCGS about that sort of thing?  I imagine they love the idea of new sets because it pushes people to get coins graded in and effort to complete a set.
Hi Mark
I have been raising the issue both here and on CCF (including in the section on TPGs) over the past month or so. Hopefully somebody at PCGS reads the forums to check on the public mood (lots of brick-bats and bouquets about the various TPGs are aired over there on CCF) and they might wake up to the market potential.

markn

Quote from: 'nealeffendi' pid='41117' dateline='1391728233'I have been raising the issue both here and on CCF (including in the section on TPGs) over the past month or so. Hopefully somebody at PCGS reads the forums to check on the public mood (lots of brick-bats and bouquets about the various TPGs are aired over there on CCF) and they might wake up to the market potential.

I think it's a good idea.  I can see someone trying to complete a variety set in low grades by looking through bulk lots.  But completing the full date set by looking through bulk lots?  Finding a 1930 penny in scrap?  Yeah.  Nah.
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Goldseeker

I am wondering.   I have an almost complete set of pre decimal pennies including 1930 penny, sigle dot and double dot pennies all in circulated condition.

Could this collection make the Set registry and if so, how does one go about it?
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trout

Quote from: 'Goldseeker' pid='41129' dateline='1391752941'I am wondering.   I have an almost complete set of pre decimal pennies including 1930 penny, sigle dot and double dot pennies all in circulated condition.

Could this collection make the Set registry and if so, how does one go about it?

Sell your cruise tickets, get another mortgage then get them graded by PCGS/NGC. :yahoo:
It would cost a small fortune to get a complete set of Penny's graded and slabbed.:angel:
The 1930 penny I would most certainly get graded just to have it authenticated :ok:
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ADMISLSE

Longer way to go to complete my set then, just thought only 1930 to go, now have 1942 I without I.

keldaw

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ADMISLSE

Quote from: 'Goldseeker' pid='41129' dateline='1391752941'I am wondering.   I have an almost complete set of pre decimal pennies including 1930 penny, sigle dot and double dot pennies all in circulated condition.

Could this collection make the Set registry and if so, how does one go about it?

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drakesterling

Quote from: 'keldaw' pid='41143' dateline='1391759595'I have 1943 if needed ..     ,, kel ,,

A 1943 Bombay without the I? It was my understanding that these were mythological.

echidna

Quote from: 'drakesterling' pid='41192' dateline='1391846115'
Quote from: 'keldaw' pid='41143' dateline='1391759595'I have 1943 if needed ..     ,, kel ,,

A 1943 Bombay without the I? It was my understanding that these were mythological.

I've seen two 43s without the mintmark but they have both been filled dies.

r9453

The 1955Y narrow date has been given a PCGS No.:

PCGS #598377

At this stage there is only one (belongs to 5 cent):



From what I can work out, its not required for the big set but presumably can substitute for the narrow date variety:

Australian Pennies Complete Set with Major Varieties, Circulation Strikes (1911-1964)
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