finders keepers

[ausjack]

Well when I was a kid finders keepers meant exactly that so I was wondering how much money value before your suppose to hand it in as handing in a hand full of coin wouldn't go down well one would thing..and who did killed bambi :scratch_one-s_head:

[robbiegal]

depends on how much you found
and how much vested interest the mob has in getting it back

[ausjack]

I was just thinking about finding money and how they all say now to take it to the cops but then I thought well how much is it 'cause they'd laugh at you if you kept going in every time you found 5 cent but then thought well I wonder what it is, is it $5, 10 20 50 or over $100 not that I'm that lucky to find anything of great value.
and what about bambi :-/

[Fulvio]

Interesting question.

You only ever hear about sackfuls of cash. Or wallets. I think I'd consider it mine unless it was a distinctive amount or packaging. Notes and coins wandering about in the wild are fair game. Somebody's life savings or hard-earned bank heist proceeds aren't.
Oh, and Bambi is delicious. Or so I hear... :diablo:

[trout]

Well when I was a kid finders keepers meant exactly that so I was wondering how much money value before your suppose to hand it in as handing in a hand full of coin wouldn't go down well one would thing..and who did killed bambi :scratch_one-s_head:

Why do you ask AJ, have you finally finished the tunnel into Fulvios Vault ? :diablo::laugh2:

[Fulvio]

have you finally finished the tunnel into Fulvios Vault ?

What? What? WHAT?

Nooooo... not my precious!

Unleash the Hounds! Launch the Alert Fighters! Push the Big Red Button!

Dastardly fiends!

[trout]

Unleash the Hounds! Launch the Alert Fighters! Push the Big Red Button!

I just saw 2 Cats followed by 3 budgies come out of your house and all the sprinklers just came on. :yahoo:

Crikey the sprinklers just wet all the budgies feathers so they are unable to fly and the Cats are eating them now :diablo::laugh2:

[ausjack]

that's it trout..last time a tell you a secret..don't worry about that scratching sound Fulvio it's nothing mate :laugh2:

[nealeffendi]

Well when I was a kid finders keepers meant exactly that so I was wondering how much money value before your suppose to hand it in as handing in a hand full of coin wouldn't go down well one would thing..and who did killed bambi :scratch_one-s_head:

I believe the law in Australia is $5 and up.
In theory if nobody claims the property within 3 months then it is yours.
In practice you have to be cynical about the chances of the cops giving it to you. I used to work in a recycling plant and you would find heaps of wallets, purses, housekeys and cash. I only ever handed stuff in if there was something important inside (like a current passport) or something sentimental (an old photo of somebody) and then only if there was some identification.
Nothing worse than getting stuff that was obviously tossed out by staff in a nursing home and finding depression era mementos or even WW1 portraits  of young soldiers. One time there was a box of old jewellry that  looked like the good stuff was removed, but the "costume" stuff included some silver and even platinum pieces were still there, plus some obvious Jewish stuff (Star of David, things with Hebrew on them).
Sometimes people found wads of cash, biggest amount that I found out about was a bag of cash (well over $100,000), the guy handed it in to the cops and then when it wasn't claimed within 3 months the cops decided to keep it (on the spurious logic that if it wasn't claimed then it must be dirty money).
At another recycling place that I worked an Indian guy found a coin album, but he threw it away because it was all old money.

[Cooper S]

As if you would throw away old coin albums?

[Fulvio]

As if you would throw away old coin albums?

People do stupid things all the time.

[ausjack]

I believe the law in Australia is $5 and up.
In theory if nobody claims the property within 3 months then it is yours.
In practice you have to be cynical about the chances of the cops giving it to you. I used to work in a recycling plant and you would find heaps of wallets, purses, housekeys and cash. I only ever handed stuff in if there was something important inside (like a current passport) or something sentimental (an old photo of somebody) and then only if there was some identification.
Nothing worse than getting stuff that was obviously tossed out by staff in a nursing home and finding depression era mementos or even WW1 portraits  of young soldiers. One time there was a box of old jewellry that  looked like the good stuff was removed, but the "costume" stuff included some silver and even platinum pieces were still there, plus some obvious Jewish stuff (Star of David, things with Hebrew on them).
Sometimes people found wads of cash, biggest amount that I found out about was a bag of cash (well over $100,000), the guy handed it in to the cops and then when it wasn't claimed within 3 months the cops decided to keep it (on the spurious logic that if it wasn't claimed then it must be dirty money).
At another recycling place that I worked an Indian guy found a coin album, but he threw it away because it was all old money.
[/quote]

Cool, thanks mate. When I was on council I found a purse in a bin and took it to the cops and they didn't seem like they really cared so the next one I found the lady was lucky because I'd worked at the hospital just before so I knew exactly who she was and where I could find her and she was so greatful as she was in the process of cancelling everything. Yes I have lost wallet so I know how much of a pain it is and worse if you lose it away from home.

[Steveqld]

Can't speak for any other State but in Qld, if the owner cannot be located, the Police must return the property to the person who lawful handed it to them providing it's lawful for them to have it (eg they're not going to give a bag of dope back to you).  If they don't want to do that then they have to apply to a Justice for an order to retain it after 30 days.  The finder can also make application to a Court for an order for it's return and for $100,000 cash that's what I'd be doing.

There's no "official" limit on what you can keep without reporting it but there's also a public interest policy and for minor amounts no one cares much.

If the cash is found by an employee at work then there's another dispute about who the claimant is.  Unless there's an agreement between the employer and employee then it belongs to the employer.  The reason being that you didn't find it as an individual but in the normal course of your work.

There's no doubt police employees (not necessarily a police officer) do sometimes misappropriate property either through laziness or outright dishonesty but fortunately it is the exception rather than the rule.  There are many opportunities but you have to trust them sometime and if it occurs often enough they will get caught out eventually.

[nealeffendi]

Can't speak for any other State but in Qld, if the owner cannot be located, the Police must return the property to the person who lawful handed it to them providing it's lawful for them to have it (eg they're not going to give a bag of dope back to you).  If they don't want to do that then they have to apply to a Justice for an order to retain it after 30 days.  The finder can also make application to a Court for an order for it's return and for $100,000 cash that's what I'd be doing.

There's no "official" limit on what you can keep without reporting it but there's also a public interest policy and for minor amounts no one cares much.

If the cash is found by an employee at work then there's another dispute about who the claimant is.  Unless there's an agreement between the employer and employee then it belongs to the employer.  The reason being that you didn't find it as an individual but in the normal course of your work.

There's no doubt police employees (not necessarily a police officer) do sometimes misappropriate property either through laziness or outright dishonesty but fortunately it is the exception rather than the rule.  There are many opportunities but you have to trust them sometime and if it occurs often enough they will get caught out eventually.

Yes, we were supposed to hand valuables in to the company as their property (but nobody did).
I'm not sure why you think dishonest cops are the exception, it is a coin forum so I won't go in to things that a few ex cop friends have told me.
If you do retain an item over the $5 amount then you can be charged with larceny (at least in NSW).
You would be amazed at what people throw out. Cases of imported booze, 19th century books, old sterling silverware, handcuffs, handguns and stilettos. I handed the guns in, gave the booze to workmates and kept everything else (and as a coin forum I won't say what fun the handcuffs are:yahoo:)

[Steveqld]

I'm not sure why you think dishonest cops are the exception, it is a coin forum so I won't go in to things that a few ex cop friends have told me.

I didn't use the term dishonest because it means different things to different people.  For example if you take the company car down to buy your lunch is it dishonest, put in an exaggerated overtime claim, if you take a false sickie or take a biro from the stationery cabinet?.

My phrase was "misappropriate property" ie outright theft in the context of knocking off something of value that you don't have an entitlement to.  It happens but very infrequently and, I suggest, less commonly than in the general population.