1920 Dot over top scroll English

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Robster

I have been following this thread and would like to congratulate all those who are assisting in providing some great information for those who would otherwise remain uninformed.!!
 I will be using this thread in the near future to glean information.!!  Congrats.!:ok:
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nealeffendi

Quote from: 'Robster' pid='31764' dateline='1382393035'I have been following this thread and would like to congratulate all those who are assisting in providing some great information for those who would otherwise remain uninformed.!!
 I will be using this thread in the near future to glean information.!!  Congrats.!:ok:

Enthusiasts posting their knowledge is how we all learn. I have to thank Dave Guy for posting on the (defunct) Oztion forum his opinion that all CBLs are dot below. Inspired me to check if that was true (I was unsure) and that got me checking the "no Dot" English.

stevo1962

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Quote from: 'stevo1962' pid='31759' dateline='1382391895'Very interesting reading because I noodled what I thought was 3  x 1919 double dot pennies from a bulk lot last week and will now have to dig them out and have another look

Great find even if only 1 is a genuine coin.The Triton page has a photo of the 'moat type' upper dot but it still has the bar over the A,the other type is the normal smaller dot with bar over A.I'm no expert on all this but thats how i understand it all.Nearly out of Monthly Internet Download limit so will post some photos next Month.

http://www.triton.vg/P19.html

 On rechecking it was actually 3 x 1920 double dot that I found but only 2 x 1919 double dot or so I thought.One of the 1919 pennies is definately double dot and this is the other one , sorry about the photos taken quickly with my phone

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Basil

I don't think so,dots a bit high and to the right and i can't see bar over A. Just MO thou.
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stevo1962

Quote from: 'Basil' pid='31844' dateline='1382414529'I don't think so,dots a bit high and to the right and i can't see bar over A. Just MO thou.

The dot is actually a bit to the left.The other mark is a bit of fluff .I'll have to post a better photo later when I get more time
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stevo1962

Quote from: 'Basil' pid='31844' dateline='1382414529'I don't think so,dots a bit high and to the right and i can't see bar over A. Just MO thou.

I'm pretty sure this one is a 1919 double dot

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nealeffendi

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Quote from: 'Basil' pid='31844' dateline='1382414529'I don't think so,dots a bit high and to the right and i can't see bar over A. Just MO thou.

I'm pretty sure this one is a 1919 double dot



I'm pretty sure it isn't. Looks more like the false double dot.

Basil

I agree,the key is always the bar over A,its always there,even if a bit faint from a soft/poor strike. Maybe someone in the future may possibly ID a variety of 1919 DD with it missing but i've never seen a genuine coin yet without it.
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stevo1962

Quote from: 'Basil' pid='32089' dateline='1382580880'I agree,the key is always the bar over A,its always there,even if a bit faint from a soft/poor strike. Maybe someone in the future may possibly ID a variety of 1919 DD with it missing but i've never seen a genuine coin yet without it.

It's good to know about all of these little markers as I have a little bag of 1919 and 1920 pennies that I am reluctant to release until I know what's going on with all of these dots and dashes
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stevo1962

Just picked this one up out of a bulk lot and it looks like a London
Obverse Dot below bottom scroll in VF condition.Anybody know if this is one of
the scarce varieties?

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echidna

Nice find.
Its a dot below London.
These are scarce especially in better than average grade - but not rare.

Fordprefect

Good one,

An oxymoron but it is the most "common" :angel:
of these die pairings.
Usually found in about VG grade catching a higher
grade one is a bonus.

Die crack at IN of IND

Indent/groove to rim

Rob the Elder

nealeffendi

A nicer than average grade coin, nice clear dot, no detracting marks and always a big bonus to find. Well done.
As noted by  Ford it is the "common" variety, about twice as common as the other die pair.

oh my florin

Nice find and in that grade you are very lucky. Nice coin

Mister T

Did you ever find the article nealeffendi? I'm getting a book on Australian bronze coins by a Dr David L Briggs as a gift early in January but I'm not sure when the book was published or whether there's any mention of the penny in question.