Fabricated or real error?

Started by trout, February 05, 2017, 10:55:20 PM

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Quote from: 'Nevol' pid='105119' dateline='1486690341'
Quote from: 'trout' pid='105117' dateline='1486687710'This pretty much takes care of where to get a replacement capsule for a dollar coin can be obtained.
Be a bit pricey after they add their $10 Minimum Postage. OK I guess if you've got some other things to chuck on the order and spread the cost.

Although I really don't need any more I have been adding the baggies of the changeover coins to each of my orders, That way I am getting them at face value.
I think that I have $200-$300 worth of them so far:angel:
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Quote from: 'trout' pid='105121' dateline='1486693498'I think that I have $200-$300 worth of them so far:angel:

So you'll be the guy to talk to when I want some, right? :)
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Quote from: 'trout' pid='105121' dateline='1486693498'I think that I have $200-$300 worth of them so far:angel:

So you'll be the guy to talk to when I want some, right? :)

Probably :angel:
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Quote from: 'trout' pid='105117' dateline='1486687710'This pretty much takes care of where to get a replacement capsule for a dollar coin can be obtained.

 https://eshop.ramint.gov.au/Coin-Capsule-1/6760386.aspx




I also have a spare 2004 hologram MOR that I am more than willing to send to Markn for testing in acetone to get a truly unbiased opinion as to if the hologram can be removed.
I could easily do it myself But that wouldn't be perceived as being unbiased.
Same ones? https://renniks.com/main.aspx?pageid=800&cat=&pid=3843 :idea:
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trout

QuoteSame ones? https://renniks.com/main.aspx?pageid=800&cat=&pid=3843

I don't know as I have never bought airtights and all the ones that I have are from various RAM sets that I have broken up for my collections.
I don't know where RAM gets theirs from but I highly doubt that they would have the infrastructure to manufacture their own and whoever RAM's supplier is would also supply other markets for these as well.
Maybe if you asked RAM they would tell you where they get theirs from?
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Quote from: 'trout' pid='105180' dateline='1486816870'whoever RAM's supplier is would also supply other markets for these as well.

I asked the Melbourne supplier of the press-fit capsules they use in their cards, and was told that the RAM owns the dies and they can't use them to make any for anyone else. This deal would apply to all suppliers. So unless you can convince the mint to let go of some, you're outta luck.
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trout

QuoteSo unless you can convince the mint to let go of some, you're outta luck.

No convincing needed Mate.
The  capsules  for the 5c, 10c, 20c, 50c, $1, $2 and $5 coins are all available through the Mint Shop.
At $1.65 a pop + $10 postage they are more expensive than the other brands though.
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trout

QuoteI asked the Melbourne supplier of the press-fit capsules they use in their cards, and was told that the RAM owns the dies and they can't use them to make any for anyone else.

These capsules that are used on the carded coins are a different design to the capsules used in the various Boxed sets.
They are not as robust as the ones used in the boxed sets and they also appear to be made of a softer plastic as well.

OK
It has been nearly a week since I was personally insulted, abused and threatened with legal action for questioning if this missing hologram coin is a genuine error of if it is a manufactured error.
Given that replacement  capsules can be sourced from RAM and that acetone will remove paint, glue, and varnish from a coin I would have thought that it was quite reasonable to question the validity of this "error".
Do we now cease to question these missing paint errors in future just because it may upset the seller or that we may be subjected to abuse from other Members?
Have personal insults, abuse and threats Now become acceptable behaviour on this forum?
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Quote from: 'trout' pid='105183' dateline='1486845397'Given that replacement  capsules can be sourced from RAM and that acetone will remove paint, glue, and varnish from a coin I would have thought that it was quite reasonable to question the validity of this "error".

Trying to increase the value of Coins by deception is a Cottage Industry now that  the perpetrators have a Market Place's like Ebay to sell them.
I'm(personally) suspicious of all such 'ërrors' and just stay away knowing some will be genuine.
I wouldn't take it to heart Jim,you expressed an opinion and if someone disagrees,which is normal for a Forum,so be it,who cares,just move on.
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Fulvio

Quote from: 'trout' pid='105183' dateline='1486845397'a different design to the capsules used in the various Boxed sets.

I realise that. My point was that their policies would be the same across all products. Manufacturers can't reuse dies for other clients.
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Quote from: 'trout' pid='105183' dateline='1486845397'OK
It has been nearly a week since I was personally insulted, abused and threatened with legal action for questioning if this missing hologram coin is a genuine error of if it is a manufactured error.
Given that replacement  capsules can be sourced from RAM and that acetone will remove paint, glue, and varnish from a coin I would have thought that it was quite reasonable to question the validity of this "error".
Do we now cease to question these missing paint errors in future just because it may upset the seller or that we may be subjected to abuse from other Members?
Have personal insults, abuse and threats Now become acceptable behaviour on this forum?

OK. That's your right of reply out of the way, you're owed that based on the other member's post.  That's where it ends though, any more attempts by you or any other member to rub someones nose in it will be deleted.  And any more insults or accusations directed trout's way will be treated in the same manner.
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Fulvio

Quote from: 'markn' pid='105226' dateline='1486883078'And any more insults or accusations directed trout's way will be treated in the same manner.

But... but... if we can't hang shit on Trout and AJ, what meaning is there to our pitiful lives???? :dodgy:

Pass the rusty razor blades.
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I would that you would be exempted Fulvio because everyone knows you are completely incorrigible :angel:
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