5 cent web foot

interest · August 19, 2016, 11:12:51 PM

Have been checking out as many five cent coins as I could get my hands on for errors & varieties
now apart from this

I have found on the 2008, 2010, 2011, 2012, & 2012 reverse a peculiar WEB FEET as per what I have drawn on this scan

My Problem is I can't get a good photo of it & I'm desperate to get it.
So I need help,
Is there somebody I could send one of these web footed Echidnas to & get a photo of?
now they are all the same no matter what year but not on all coins
so one photo would suffice.
HELP.......... I don't need it back as I have a few.

ausjack · August 19, 2016, 11:35:29 PM

You have my address interest so if you like i'll have a go for you :good:

Just hold off for a bit before sending interest as I might be able to help with a bit of luck. Ok just had a quick look and found a few but my lighting is pretty crappy so I'll try and take a couple of better pic's tomorrow in the sunlight. One has a cud in the web and the other looks sort of like your drawing, hope they help mate :friends:

Sorry about the crappy pic's

ausjack · August 20, 2016, 07:56:49 AM

Gee it's hard trying to get a good image of these and no bloody sun doesn't help but hope these help ya interest

and here's a big pic :angel:

Fulvio · August 20, 2016, 08:00:56 AM

Quote from: 'ausjack' pid='95100' dateline='1471645609'Gee it's hard trying to get a good image of these and no bloody sun doesn't help but hope these help ya interest

Pretty good, mate.

So, this adds a third level of relief, below the toe and nail. And its consistent enough to be a die variety.

But.. WHY? :dodgy:

Oh, and now I'm going to have to open those sacks of 2012's I have stashed. Curse you, Red Baron!

ausjack · August 20, 2016, 08:22:38 AM

Blame interest as I was just helping out a mate :blush2:

Don't know why but it is sort of common as you can see, have fun with your search Fulvio

Nevol · August 20, 2016, 08:57:06 AM

Here are my attempts to show the webbed claws on the 5c pieces.
I'm fairly sure I have them on all years from 2008 to 2015.

Another thing that seems to occur in tandem with the webbed claws is the outline between the spines on the Echidna's back. I mentioned this in 2012 & 2013, but no-one seemed very interested in it.

Images shown are 2009 with both web claw & outline and 1999 with no outline. The first year I noticed the outline was also 2008.

Curiously, some 2016 coins clearly have the spine outline, but only have the merest hint of the webbed claws.

5c 2009 Rev Web Claw Duo

5c 1999 - 2009 Outline Duo

interest · August 20, 2016, 09:24:34 AM

Quote from: 'ausjack' pid='95100' dateline='1471645609'Gee it's hard trying to get a good image of these and no bloody sun doesn't help but hope these help ya interest

and here's a big pic :angel:

That's the shot, thank you very much what years do you have?

Quote from: 'Nevol' pid='95110' dateline='1471649226'Here are my attempts to show the webbed claws on the 5c pieces.
I'm fairly sure I have them on all years from 2008 to 2015.

Another thing that seems to occur in tandem with the webbed claws is the outline between the spines on the Echidna's back. I mentioned this in 2012 & 2013, but no-one seemed very interested in it.

Images shown are 2009 with both web claw & outline and 1999 with no outline. The first year I noticed the outline was also 2008.

Curiously, some 2016 coins clearly have the spine outline, but only have the merest hint of the webbed claws.

5c 1999 - 2009 Outline Duo

Yes the Spines I was going to get to them but I just wanted to clear the web foot up first.
Thanks for the photo, really shows the difference.

ausjack · August 20, 2016, 09:42:05 AM

My pleasure mate :hi:
I found the same as Nevol and they pretty much start from 2008 on and the 2009 has the other funny marks.

Please feel free to pinch the pick if you like :friends:

Fulvio · August 20, 2016, 09:58:39 AM

Quote from: 'Nevol' pid='95110' dateline='1471649226'Another thing that seems to occur in tandem with the webbed claws is the outline between the spines on the Echidna's back. I mentioned this in 2012 & 2013, but no-one seemed very interested in it.

I don't recall seeing that, sorry.

So, here's a hypothesis... What if they deliberately added some definition to the Echidna's body by adding that low relief behind the feet and spines?

If that's the case, then we could reasonably expect that the 'old' design would be gradually phased out as they used up die stocks and replaced them with the new ones, no?

Do the numbers confirm this? Low in 2008 and rising to 100% eventually? Anyone got some stats?

ausjack · August 20, 2016, 10:37:06 AM

I have quite a few of these with a distinct funny mark down the left side and around the feet but I thought it was just cool doubling and they're pretty much all 2009, sorry for so many pic's.
:scratch_one-s_head: do you even look at your coins Fulvio :blink: :mocking: Happy hunting :angel:

If it's not doubling it's some sort of fill

And not sure because of my poor memory but think I may have mentioned these ages ago as well but I am a sieve :winkextra:

Fulvio · August 20, 2016, 10:48:23 AM

Quote from: 'ausjack' pid='95137' dateline='1471655226'do you even look at your coins Fulvio

This is a bit of a sore point, actually.

I am incredibly cramped for space. Never mind the reasons, lets just say "Its not my fault".

So while I examine every coin that passes through my hands minutely (except for rolls/bags/sacks), what happens to them after that gets complicated.

Rejects are easy. I roll them up, mostly in recycled Armaguard bags.

Errors go in one pile. High-grade, rare, or otherwise 'interesting' normal coins go in another pile.

When the piles get wonky, I bag them up and/or throw them in tubs for future attention. When a stack of tubs gets a bit unstable, I try to find the energy and time to go through it and categorise things a bit. At this stage I likely roll up and label things, or bag/mount unique specimens.

Mounted coins go in albums. Rolls go into sacks, which go into milk crates, which go off to the vaults, likely never to be seen again.

Yes, its a mess. One which someone else can sort out once I'm gone.

ausjack · August 20, 2016, 10:54:52 AM

:yahoo: I too use that excuse "it's not my fault

I know it's a bit of a sore point but doesn't your brother try and help you clean up :dodgy:

Mister T · August 20, 2016, 11:08:19 AM

Quote from: 'Nevol' pid='95110' dateline='1471649226'Another thing that seems to occur in tandem with the webbed claws is the outline between the spines on the Echidna's back. I mentioned this in 2012 & 2013, but no-one seemed very interested in it.

I think someone (echidna?) has noted this - the outline between the spines seems to be on the tiny SD coins only I think?

ausjack · August 20, 2016, 11:15:52 AM

If it wasn't echi it might have been emu as he's written about the different sides SD's before.

Fulvio · August 20, 2016, 11:53:20 AM

Quote from: 'ausjack' pid='95146' dateline='1471656292'I know it's a bit of a sore point but doesn't your brother try and help you clean up :dodgy:

If he got anywhere near them, they'd all be cashed in at the nearest bank by now. There are fools, damned fools, and my brother in a category all his own. :dodgy: