5 cent web foot

[ausjack]

Ok when I get some motivation I'll have a better look and see if there's anything like large and small SD's or anything else that stands out.

[Fulvio]

Slowly getting through these things...

After finding that all the 2008's I had were the new die, the 2009's are split 50/50 between old and new, with all the new die being light strikes with poorly defined webbed feet.

2010 are about 1/3 old die, 2/3 new die, well-struck with clear webs.

I'm now wondering about the earlier small SD dies. Does anyone have 2000/2002 coins they can check to see if the small SD's are old or new designs? I've never really been able to tell the small and tiny initials apart, so some guidance on that would be nice too.

[trout]

I struggle to see the date on a 5c coin let alone see if it has webbed feet :cray:

[Fulvio]

I struggle to see the date on a 5c coin let alone see if it has webbed feet :cray:

Which is why I have a microscope. :angel:

Speaking of which... Spoke to Kaiser-Baas yesterday. Their scopes were dropped a couple of years ago.

[JeffH]

These are readily available and the cheapest one looks to be virtually the same as the K-B.
2MP USB Digital Microscope with 200x Zoom
5MP USB 2.0 Digital Microscope with Professional Stand
2MP Wi-Fi Digital Microscope with Professional LED Backlit Stand
I have an account with Jaycar's wholesale division and can get these at less than retail price. If a few members are interested in buying one I would be happy to do a combined purchase.
Once postage is taken into account your cost would be around 25% under retail.

[Fulvio]

If a few members are interested in buying one I would be happy to do a combined purchase.

I'm heading over to Phil's on Monday night (he seldom logs in here... must fix that), and will take my KB to show him. Reckon he'd be in for one.

I could also possibly be interested in the 5MP as an upgrade from the KB. It would probably depend on the Mac software that comes with it.

[JeffH]

It would probably depend on the Mac software that comes with it.

You can download the software and user manual from the link I gave if you want to have a look at them. I would not be surprised if the software is compatible with KB so you could test run it first -at least for the 2MP version.

If any interest in purchases I will start a separate thread for that and offer the option for any Jaycar items (within reason) as I do get good pricing on the wholesale account.

[Fulvio]

Has anyone examined pre-2008 Tiny SD's yet?

My results so far:

2008 100% New Die, 50% Light strikes with weak or no webbing
2009 60% New, Light strikes, 40% Old die (Large SD)
2010 80% New, no Light, 20% Old
2011 100% New, 25% Light
2012 100% New, 50% Light
2013 100% New, no Light
2014 80% New, 60% Light, 20% Old
2015 100% New, no Light

Based on this small sample, it looks like the old dies were used in 2009, 2010, 2014, but the majority of coins from 2008 on are the new die. I don't have any pre-2008 Tiny SD to look at, nor any Proof or Mint Sets.

I'd happily call the Large SD/old die as the rarity in these years, which makes sense if the change was deliberate, which it appears to be.

But without knowing if the earlier die differences were just the initials or the body/feet, its hard to pin down the redesign's first appearance.

[trout]

Good work Mate that would have been a marathon effort :good:
Now look at something Green and it will rest your eyes

[Fulvio]

Now look at something Green and it will rest your eyes

Actually, I was going to play some C&C: Generals. There's a fair bit of green in that... :dodgy:

[Unicorn]

Good work Mate that would have been a marathon effort :good:

:i_agree:

Now look at something Green and it will rest your eyes

Perhaps some "cushioned" coronations in LDPE bags? :mocking: (Sorry McDuck, just had to).

[trout]

Now look at something Green and it will rest your eyes

Actually, I was going to play some C&C: Generals. There's a fair bit of green in that... :dodgy:

Looking at something green actually does work if you have eye strain :ok:

[Fulvio]

(Sorry McDuck, just had to).

I thought of it before you did, but I figured if I left it out there, you couldn't resist. :diablo:

And yeah, I know about eyestrain... don't have any though, just a sore neck.

[JeffH]

And he only just beat me to it.

[Mister T]

Has anyone examined pre-2008 Tiny SD's yet?

My results so far:

2008 100% New Die, 50% Light strikes with weak or no webbing
2009 60% New, Light strikes, 40% Old die (Large SD)
2010 80% New, no Light, 20% Old
2011 100% New, 25% Light
2012 100% New, 50% Light
2013 100% New, no Light
2014 80% New, 60% Light, 20% Old
2015 100% New, no Light

Based on this small sample, it looks like the old dies were used in 2009, 2010, 2014, but the majority of coins from 2008 on are the new die. I don't have any pre-2008 Tiny SD to look at, nor any Proof or Mint Sets.

I'd happily call the Large SD/old die as the rarity in these years, which makes sense if the change was deliberate, which it appears to be.

But without knowing if the earlier die differences were just the initials or the body/feet, its hard to pin down the redesign's first appearance.

http://www.thesandpit.net/index.php?option=five_cent_tiny_SD_reverse
I've collected my own statistics over the last little while and have found similar results, as has another member here. This has also been mentioned in footnotes in McDonalds for a few years now too.