Fake Or Genuine

Started by Goldseeker, June 01, 2016, 02:58:44 PM

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Goldseeker

Maybe the successful bidder has plenty of money just to fill a hole.
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robbiegal

Quote from: 'echidna' pid='90022' dateline='1465115969'It appears that this same coin was if fact sold through Edlins.
However EVEN if it was genuine I would not value it at more than $3000.
It just too horrible to look at.

is there a catalogue photo?

echidna

Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='90341' dateline='1465546472'
Quote from: 'echidna' pid='90022' dateline='1465115969'It appears that this same coin was if fact sold through Edlins.
However EVEN if it was genuine I would not value it at more than $3000.
It just too horrible to look at.

is there a catalogue photo?


http://www.edlins.com.au/200/i/112809.jpg


robbiegal

edlins INVOICE noted
ebay 1930


dings match

edlins coin


heritage obv (has 8 pearls this one)


ausjack

Up to $7,950 and 18 hours to go and just noticed apcgs said it was fake on FB but he has been known to grade fakes :blink:
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1930-Penny-Grade-F-Fine-lot-09069-Ex-Shop-Liquidation-1930-Australian-Penny-/222139742202#description
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trout

If a coin of this rarity isn't graded and authenticated then it is a "No Brainer" to stay away :ok:
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ausjack

At those prices I don't have a choice :blink:
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robbiegal

speaking of questionable coins
what do other think of this coin please


Robster

Severe die polishing marks on reverse?
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r9453

I was wondering if there is a limit to how many fake 1930 pennies Ebay can sell but then again maybe not. As for the 1933 penny it appears to be in a holder of some kind, what does that say?
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autocoupler

Yeah, I was wondering about the die polishing, and if it is from wire brushing it's a bit different in that they appear to have been applied in an orderly manner across the coin. The Kings regalia gives the impression of not being fully struck up, but the coin does display plenty of colour though.

Now this is the part that really irks me, why would anyone bother to slab a coin that is obviously suffering from the green death? I very much doubt that verdigris of that severity developed after the coin was entombed. Personally, I  would forget any nonsense that says we shouldn't treat this type of contamination, and would much rather have any coin treated that even hints of being infected before being slabbed if were a slabber, which I'm not :angel:

There's no way I would buy any coin suffering in this way without a huge discount. Then it would go straight to the shed where the hammer and cold chisel reside and be set free :yahoo:, and then off to hospital it would go. :)
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robbiegal

I accidently cut off a part of the label that also says DETAILS and apparently that was because of the Verdigris
I have been intending to take it to my coin dealer as there is just something about this coin that makes me suspicious that it is not genuine (my coin dealer verifies 1930 pennies professionally so he is reliable)
maybe it's a proof???? that would be great!!

ausjack

Quote from: 'autocoupler' pid='90533' dateline='1465776578'if were a slabber, which I'm not :angel:

But you could be auto :angel:

Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='90544' dateline='1465779196'I accidently cut off a part of the label that also says DETAILS and apparently that was because of the Verdigris
I have been intending to take it to my coin dealer as there is just something about this coin that makes me suspicious that it is not genuine (my coin dealer verifies 1930 pennies professionally so he is reliable)
maybe it's a proof???? that would be great!!


Well he has been known to slab fakes before :dodgy:
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Basil

Quote from: 'autocoupler' pid='90533' dateline='1465776578'Now this is the part that really irks me, why would anyone bother to slab a coin that is obviously suffering from the green death? I very much doubt that verdigris of that severity developed after the coin was entombed. Personally, I  would forget any nonsense that says we shouldn't treat this type of contamination, and would much rather have any coin treated that even hints of being infected before being slabbed if were a slabber, which I'm not :angel:

FWIW i agree,Verdigris has to be treated and doesn't need much Oxygen to grow,i have coins that are sealed and its still growing.
Also coins that have paint/varnish/enamel and the like also need treatment IMO,everything else is obviously best left alone.
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