Wedding Sets

ausjack · August 17, 2016, 11:40:15 AM

:shock: gee that much difference in postage, ngc are looking better all the time

trout · August 17, 2016, 11:45:10 AM

Quote from: 'ausjack' pid='94792' dateline='1471399815':shock: gee that much difference in postage, ngc are looking better all the time

The NGC grading fees are also $3 per coin cheaper than PCGS if you choose not to use the secure option and the turnaround times at NGC WAY faster than PCGS at the moment as well.

I just had a look at my invoices and the 8 coin world economy submission to PCGs cost me $279.47 and the 9 coin world modern submission to NGC cost me $155 .
The PCGS submission took from 13/5/16 to 27/7/16 to be graded.
The NGC submission took from 25/7/16 to 10/8/16 to be graded.

ausjack · August 17, 2016, 03:50:24 PM

Are there any dealers here that send to ngc :huh: as most seem to use pcgs but if they're so much cheaper and quicker turn around time I'd be happy to use ngc :angel:

trout · August 17, 2016, 03:53:54 PM

With the amount of Stuff ups coming out of PCGS at the moment I personally prefer NGC .

Goldseeker · August 19, 2016, 08:10:49 PM

OK, but re reading this complete thread, I am getting the impression that OPCGS is the leader in coin grading and NGC are running a distant 2nd place.

Does NGC grading hold up as good as PCGS or is it that one is getting a bit tired of waiting on PCGS and taking the lesser of two evils?

I would like to get the rest of my 2000 Mules slabbed so your response(s) could influence where I send then remaining 18 Mules.

JeffH · August 20, 2016, 05:02:08 AM

I better get in before AJ. Send them to me and I will return, post haste, a list of my gradings. :diablo:

ausjack · August 20, 2016, 06:49:03 AM

:laugh2: and they say I'm cheeky :winkextra:
You can be my second grader for AJPCGS Jeff :friends:

trout · August 21, 2016, 05:09:38 AM

Quote from: 'Goldseeker' pid='95049' dateline='1471603249'OK, but re reading this complete thread, I am getting the impression that OPCGS is the leader in coin grading and NGC are running a distant 2nd place.

Does NGC grading hold up as good as PCGS or is it that one is getting a bit tired of waiting on PCGS and taking the lesser of two evils?

I would like to get the rest of my 2000 Mules slabbed so your response(s) could influence where I send then remaining 18 Mules.

I personally don't think that NGC are a distant second to PCGS at all.
In fact at the moment they are shaping up to be a lot better option than PCGS, Not only service wise but price wise as well.
I think that NGC and PCGS grades are pretty much on a Par and NGC seem to do a better job of attributing Non US coins than PCGS as well.

Choose whichever TPG that you want Goldie , It is your call Mate.
At the moment you would probably be able to sell your Mules easier in a PCGS slab But with some of the "Shady" grades coming out of the Hong Kong office and the lousy attributions from PCGS of late this may be subject to change in the future :ok:
There is also the problem with the large influx of low grade coins in PCGS slabs on the market that may make people think that the PCGS brand is associated with low grade coins, Nobody knows what will happen 5-10 years down the track.

Like I said Mate, It's your call

Goldseeker · August 21, 2016, 04:49:44 PM

Read you load and clear trout. Thanks.

r9453 · August 23, 2016, 04:51:42 AM

Universal Coin Company have a bunch of these sets up for auction and they are calling them proofs:

http://liveauction.universalcoinco.com.au/Australia-Proof-Wedding-Sets-2004-05_i25436494

trout · August 23, 2016, 05:31:18 AM

Quote from: 'r9453' pid='95359' dateline='1471893702'Universal Coin Company have a bunch of these sets up for auction and they are calling them proofs:

http://liveauction.universalcoinco.com.au/Australia-Proof-Wedding-Sets-2004-05_i25436494

These coins ARE pretty much proofs, They were produced using the same techniques as any other Decimal proof coin only they are unfrosted.
They also could be described as Proof Like or Specimens as well.
The trouble with getting these coins attributed are manyfold But the Main hurdle is RAM's stupid "Gem Uncirculated Finish" description of the coins :dash1:
With the acceptance of slabbed and graded coins becoming more widely accepted by Australian collectors these particular coins need to be attributed differently to the Business strike and Frosted proofs that were minted from 2002-2009 because they ARE a very different coin.
Until NGC or PCGS step up to the plate and start to attribute these coins for what they are confusion will reign supreme.

ausjack · August 23, 2016, 06:19:58 AM

Hopefully NGC will play the game

trout · August 23, 2016, 06:37:11 AM

Quote from: 'ausjack' pid='95370' dateline='1471898998'Hopefully NGC will play the game

We will have to wait and see with that one Mate, hopefully I will be successful getting these attributed differently with NGC.
I have given up on PCGS coming to the party because they have graded way too many of these coins as MS now :ok:

ausjack · August 23, 2016, 07:06:55 AM

Yes you would have thought that with so many high graded coins from 02 to 09 that the penny would have dropped :winkextra:

trout · August 30, 2016, 04:43:43 AM

Quote from: 'ausjack' pid='95374' dateline='1471901815'Yes you would have thought that with so many high graded coins from 02 to 09 that the penny would have dropped :winkextra:

I am pretty certain that PCGS are fully aware that the wedding set coins are very different to the regular strike coins But they have misattributed so many of them so far that it has become too hard for them to rectify this now :dash1:

NGC on the other hand have a virtually clean slate as far as Australian decimals go So they have the perfect opportunity to get this "Right" the first time around.

I have just received notification that the 3 sets I sent for grading have arrived at NGC and the turnaround time is only 12 days, So I should have the results soon as NGC turnaround times are pretty spot on unlike the blown out PCGS turnaround times :good: