Wedding Sets

Started by trout, April 26, 2015, 02:00:11 PM

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trout

My submission of wedding set coins to NGC is "Scheduled for grading"
at the moment.
In the variety/pedigree part of the coin listing NGC has them pegged as "Wedding Set" :yahoo:
Now we have to wait and see how these are attributed/graded But so far this looks promising :good:
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ausjack

Cool, this might make pcgs pull their finger out but then again :dodgy:
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trout

Quote from: 'ausjack' pid='96250' dateline='1472603198'Cool, this might make pcgs pull their finger out but then again :dodgy:

That will never happen Mate :angel:
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ausjack

Yes they seem to be set in their ways. But imagine all the money they could make if people sent ALL their MS coins in to get re attributed to SP or what ever.
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trout

Quote from: 'ausjack' pid='96258' dateline='1472604783'Yes they seem to be set in their ways. But imagine all the money they could make if people sent ALL their MS coins in to get re attributed to SP or what ever.

That is where the problem ls, If PCGS fessed up that they mistakenly attributed the wedding set coins that they have graded so far then they would be liable for the postage to and from PCGS and the re holdering would also be free.
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ausjack

Oh I seen now, yes that would cost them heaps as there's been so many done that are wrong. Getting all these MS68's and 69's should have been a bit of a give away for them.
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trout

Emu's reaction in post #13 of this thread has given me cause to think that he and others are lobbying PCGS NOT to attribute these coins correctly and that this is what has been "Choking" my efforts with PCGS.:ireful:
IF this IS the case then it is a sad state of affairs if prominent collectors  insist on these misattributed coins staying that way simply to keep their set registry status or to retain the illusion that the wedding set coins that have achieved the 68-70 grades are top of the range business strike coins in order to retain their resale value.
The set registries will be impacted if PCGS ever get around to redressing their mistakes and some collectors will have to find true MS coins to replace the wedding set coins currently in their sets.
This is a far better/fairer option that what is as I see it as  "Cheating" by including the wedding set coins in the MS decimal registry sets :ok:

Anyway at the end of the day regardless of how long it takes the 2002-2009 Wedding set coins WILL eventually be recognised by astute collectors for their superb strike/scarcity and in my opinion will be regarded  much the same then as the pre decimal proof coins are now.
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Ozcoins

That post does stand out as strange.
"Its too hard" is NOT a good excuse for not doing the right thing.
In my opinion, anyone with a wedding set coin in a set registry for normal coins is cheating.  These coins are NOT comparable to other "normal" business strikes and do not belong alongside them.

trout

Quote from: 'Ozcoins' pid='96467' dateline='1472703199'That post does stand out as strange.
"Its too hard" is NOT a good excuse for not doing the right thing.
In my opinion, anyone with a wedding set coin in a set registry for normal coins is cheating.  These coins are NOT comparable to other "normal" business strikes and do not belong alongside them.

I couldn't agree with you more Mate :good:
The deception has been going on for far too long and it is about time that these "Cheats" got a good kick up the arse by getting these coins attributed correctly :):angel:
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ausjack

I wonder why they haven't said anything about the 1970 SP coins because there would probably be a few of them in set registers in high MS grades before they finally got attributed correctly :dodgy:
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trout

Quote from: 'ausjack' pid='96498' dateline='1472714949'I wonder why they haven't said anything about the 1970 SP coins because there would probably be a few of them in set registers in high MS grades before they finally got attributed correctly :dodgy:

Mate , I got one of these back not long ago that wasn't only misattributed it was a corroded coin that PCGS gave a MS68 grade as well :dash1:
Now adding that little begger to a set registry would be a travesty.
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ausjack

These thing are what makes me wonder some times, is it really worth it :( In one sense it is IF they get it right but if they don't it makes it all a bit of a joke.
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trout

My Wedding set submission at NGC has moved up the line and is now at the "Grading/Quality control" stage, I should have the results next week. :yahoo:
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trout

When I sent these 3 Wedding sets to NGC to be graded I didn't check each individual coin like I normally would to see if it was worthy of being graded (Minimum grade 69), I simply took them out of the capsules they were housed in and put them in saflips then posted them off.
This should give us a rough idea as to what a Wedding set will grade at on average.
The grades for this particular submission for me are not that important, The important thing and is something that I am sitting on the edge of my seat about is how NGC Attribute these coins.

To say that I would be disappointed if this submission comes back with MS grades would be a huge understatement.
I am hoping for at least a PL designation and an SP designation would be an outstanding result :yahoo:

The results that I got back from my submission of in come the dollars/cents set coins which are close but not quite in the same league as the Wedding set coins gives me hope that NGC will grade and attribute the coins in this submission for what they are and not be influenced by how PCGS has attributed these coins or that "Brilliant Uncirculated" BS that RAM came up with to describe these particular coins.
On the submission form I described the coins as being PL ( as was suggested by Walter)  and I didn't note that they were wedding set coins.
However on the coin list for this submission NGC have put "Wedding Set" in the Variety/Pedigree part of the list which to me makes me think that they are fully aware that these coins are quite different to a standard strike coin from the same era.

Here's hoping that NGC get it right fist time and that Maybe just maybe PCGS will be forced to admit its ignorance and finally do something about all the wedding set coins that it has wrongly attributed in the past :ok:
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trout

I was hoping to get the results back from NGC today But I forgot about the labour long weekend in the US :(
Maybe tomorrow :angel:
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