1928 Shatow Shilling. Any around?

Oldcoinchest · January 18, 2015, 07:33:28 AM

I was recently doing some research and came across a very interesting FAKE 1928 shilling scam back in the day. The authorities realised in 1930 when some banks had a lot of 1928 shillings laying around because they cashed them in for notes. They also found that the coins were 925 silver and some had even higher purities. As always they got to confident and greedy and got caught.
My question is does anyone have one or know of anyone who does. Im just wondering if many reached circulation if at all?
Here was some addition online info I found http://www.triton.vg/Manders.html

markn · January 18, 2015, 08:08:59 AM

I have one. I looked for one for a long time and finally got one off of Peter Andrews. Peter is also the source of the images that you've seen in CAB articles about the coin.

The guts of the story (if I remember correctly) is a Chinese sailor was getting 1928 shillings minted in China, bringing them into Australia and then cashing them in at banks around Sydney for real shillings. The counterfeits were good silver, and often more than the sterling standard of the real coins.

Here's mine:

Oldcoinchest · January 18, 2015, 09:08:14 AM

Very cool, Thanks for sharing. That's pretty much the story. I can see the emu on your coin also has the cud behind the leg. Im just a bit amazed in how good of a job they did in counterfeiting the coin

markn · January 18, 2015, 09:30:44 AM

Quote from: 'Oldcoinchest' pid='65479' dateline='1421534294'Very cool, Thanks for sharing. That's pretty much the story. I can see the emu on your coin also has the cud behind the leg. Im just a bit amazed in how good of a job they did in counterfeiting the coin

Yes, it's a good counterfeit. Do you have any references as to which CAB/ACR's these coins were mentioned in? The indexes we have are wrong and I can't find the articles.

robbiegal · January 18, 2015, 10:38:10 AM

I used to have an old Coin Review magazine somewhere that features the story
darned if I know where it is now though

markn · January 18, 2015, 10:40:02 AM

Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='65481' dateline='1421539690'I used to have an old Coin Review magazine somewhere that features the story
darned if I know where it is now though

Yeah I have seen a few articles in ACR's and one or two in CAB about the coin. But never noted down where they were. The single reference to the forgery that I can find in Mick Vort Ronald's ACR index is wrong. I'd like to put an article up on the blog about it.

Unicorn · January 18, 2015, 11:55:17 AM

Be sure to put up a link if you do get time to do a blog item Mark.

markn · January 18, 2015, 12:15:03 PM

Quote from: 'Unicorn' pid='65492' dateline='1421544317'Be sure to put up a link if you do get time to do a blog item Mark.

PPH is on the case. She's found the article mentioned in MVR's index, he had the wrong volume listed. We're just trolling through CAB's and ACR's and books now and will get something up on the blog.

Unicorn · January 18, 2015, 12:29:30 PM

Crikey that was quick!

Oldcoinchest · January 18, 2015, 01:08:07 PM

Yes, it's a good counterfeit. Do you have any references as to which CAB/ACR's these coins were mentioned in? The indexes we have are wrong and I can't find the articles.
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Yeah it was out of ACR August 1984 and written by Owen Fleming. I can scan and sent it to you if you want?

markn · January 18, 2015, 02:14:05 PM

Quote from: 'Oldcoinchest' pid='65496' dateline='1421548687'Yes, it's a good counterfeit. Do you have any references as to which CAB/ACR's these coins were mentioned in? The indexes we have are wrong and I can't find the articles.

Yeah it was out of ACR August 1984 and written by Owen Fleming. I can scan and sent it to you if you want?
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Thanks, PPH found it herself

markn · January 18, 2015, 02:15:01 PM

Here's a quick article I knocked up. It's probably riddled with typos because PPH hasn't had a chance to look at it yet. Thanks to emu66 for supply of a couple of images.

1928 Shilling Forgery Article

Unicorn · January 18, 2015, 03:49:44 PM