grading help

Started by serial, May 13, 2014, 02:02:27 PM

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markn

Quote from: 'serial' pid='52845' dateline='1403064748'how is this ms66
http://www.pcgs.com/pop/valueview.aspx?s=205045
better than this
http://www.pcgs.com/Cert/29812279.html


oh and pcgs take crap pics!

Well there's two things that stand out immediately.  The first one has stunning toning.  The second one has ugly toning or perhaps a poorly neutralised dip.
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markn

Quote from: 'serial' pid='52850' dateline='1403066363'hhhmm not sure what that picture means but yes I will agree that the other has eye appeal with the toning but mine has a almost perfect strike, is covered in lustre and besides a small little spot right in the middle of the coin is perfect

It's not perfect.  The toning doesn't look too attractive and the "little black spot" is not that little and is RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE COIN and is very distracting.  PCGS don't like spots or streaks.  And they really don't like them in the middle of the coin.

QuoteI am not sure why my coin didn't get up to 66

When you see a 66 in hand I am sure it will be obvious.  Stop trying to grade from photos.  If I'm ever in Perth I'll bring over some MS66 GB sixpences for you to look at.
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robbiegal

to me the MS66 is a far better looking coin
if they were in a dealers cabinet I'd be taking the rainbow one  home

markn

Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='52867' dateline='1403081117'to me the MS66 is a far better looking coin
if they were in a dealers cabinet I'd be taking the rainbow one  home

Me too.  Here's a couple of MS66's for you.


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trout

QuoteWhen you see a 66 in hand I am sure it will be obvious.

From MS65 and above the difference IS obvious regardless of which Country the coin comes from :ok:
I would suggest buying a couple of the Cheaper MS66 slabs if you don't already have any  just to see the way they look "In Hand"
I have to agree with Markn about grading from images, You can get close to a grade from them but to make a confident and accurate assessment of a coin you have to have it in hand.

I have bought many coins using just images thinking "This will grade well" only to receive them and think "Aw Crap" another Dog :dash1:
Sometimes I get "Lucky" but this is a rare event :angel:
Your sixpence IS a nice coin but the other one is a stunner that is why it is two points higher in grade :ok
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serial

how did your submission go trout?
got your results yet?

serial

so I got a couple of coins I want to get graded but I have 6 that fall into the modern world category and a couple that fall in the economy category. can I submit them in the same package? on the same form and if I can do I need to do anything different?

trout

Quote from: 'serial' pid='53199' dateline='1403326787'how did your submission go trout?
got your results yet?

Not Yet :dash1:
They have been there since 15/5/14 or 31 working days.
The turnaround time for World modern is 23 days according to the PCGS site.
Maybe it is the few 2014 coins I sent that ay not have a coin number as yet that is slowing the process.
Either way they are taking their sweet time with this submission, it is only 31 coins so its not as if it is a big submission.
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duggee27

ok guys and gals your expert guesstimate on grade and colour
i have my thoughts.. but not telling
and naturally are they slabbable...
these could be mine




Fr45h3R

Quote from: 'duggee27' pid='53979' dateline='1404370829'ok guys and gals your expert guesstimate on grade and colour
i have my thoughts.. but not telling
and naturally are they slabbable...
these could be mine





Hmm, early Perth Mint proofs don't normally get massive high grades. Hard to tell from those pics.
I'd be guessing PR62RB on them.

dcoin

Quote from: 'duggee27' pid='53979' dateline='1404370829'ok guys and gals your expert guesstimate on grade and colour
i have my thoughts.. but not telling
and naturally are they slabbable...
these could be mine





Cant tell from status images, however, all id say is be weary of coins which didn't sell at auction. There is generally a reason (either condition or price).

duggee27

thanks dcoin
did more research and am declining the offer
will just wait for the right one ... if only $$$ was not a worry!!

serial

This is mine!!!!
http://www.pcgs.com/pop/valueview.aspx?s=828368
I havnt got the official results yet but it seems the population report is updating with all my coins (unless someone happened to put the same coins in at the same time.
Looks like I have a few more number ones :) :)

serial

got some results :)
1938 Crown   Australia Genuine - AU Details (92 - Cleaned)  
1934-35 Florin Centennial Australia MS61  
1927(m) 1D   Australia MS64RB  
1687 2D Mdy   Gr.Britain XF45  
1883-C 2 An   India MS63+  
1883-C 2 An   India MS63+  
1878(c) 2 An B/II India AU58  
1901(c) 1/12 An   Awadh MS63RB  
1913(c) 1/4 An   India MS64RD  
1907(c) 1/12 An   India MS64RB  
1904(c) 1/12 An   India MS64RB  
1899(c) 1/12 An   India MS64RD  
1903(c) 1/2 Pc   India MS63RB  

I am not surprised about the crown, but with the all fakes I thought it best to get it certified as real
I thought the same would happen with the 34 so that was a surprise!

crap! I just realised the 27 is a top of pops! :yahoo:

I put a modern grading in at the same time I put my economy but I haven't got them result yet. weird that

markn

Quote from: 'serial' pid='55473' dateline='1406244415'got some results :)
1938 Crown   Australia Genuine - AU Details (92 - Cleaned)  
1934-35 Florin Centennial Australia MS61  
1927(m) 1D   Australia MS64RB  
1687 2D Mdy   Gr.Britain XF45  
1883-C 2 An   India MS63+  
1883-C 2 An   India MS63+  
1878(c) 2 An B/II India AU58  
1901(c) 1/12 An   Awadh MS63RB  
1913(c) 1/4 An   India MS64RD  
1907(c) 1/12 An   India MS64RB  
1904(c) 1/12 An   India MS64RB  
1899(c) 1/12 An   India MS64RD  
1903(c) 1/2 Pc   India MS63RB  

I am not surprised about the crown, but with the all fakes I thought it best to get it certified as real
I thought the same would happen with the 34 so that was a surprise!


crap! I just realised the 27 is a top of pops! :yahoo:


I put a modern grading in at the same time I put my economy but I haven't got them result yet. weird that

Some nice numbers there. Congrats.
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