grading help

[trout]

Don't think it helped much. This is one coin that really needs to be photographed.

May I suggest sending it to Mark, He can make a coin look exactly like it is in hand. :good:
and maybe , just maybe he will give you the coin back :angel::laugh2:

[serial]

so if pcgs say a coin has au details cleaned and I know it hasn't been cleaned how do I dispute the bodybag before they send it back?

[trout]

so if pcgs say a coin has au details cleaned and I know it hasn't been cleaned how do I dispute the bodybag before they send it back?

You can re submit it, you can send it to NGC for grading but if it still comes back "Details" you will have to re think how you grade.
Normally 99% of the time if NGC or PCGS states the coin has been cleaned they are right on the money.
Unless you are absolutely 100% certain that they got it wrong don't throw good money after bad is my advice :ok:

[serial]

well I am pretty sure. I am happy with my other results still
I got 4 top of the pops and 1 number 2

[trout]

well I am pretty sure. I am happy with my other results still
I got 4 top of the pops and 1 number 2

Nicely done Mate :yahoo:

[serial]

CS1214 5 Mu KM-9 Burma Genuine - AU Details (92 - Cleaned)  
1888-B 1/4 Rup Raised India MS63  
1890-C 1/4 Rup   India MS64  
 1936 6D   Gr.Britain MS64  
1751 6D   Gr.Britain AU53  
1758 6D   Gr.Britain XF45  
VS1885 Rupee KM-20.1 Sikh Empire Genuine - AU Details (98 - Damage)
1882-C 2 An   India MS64  

this is how I went. can I get them to review the  "cleaned " coin before they post it back?

[trout]

this is how I went. can I get them to review the "cleaned " coin before they post it back?

I don't think so. Normally when they give you the results they are already in the mail :ok:

[Nightparrot]

If you feel strongly about it PCGS have a "Reconsideration" service but, of course, there are more fees involved. You would need to be confident of a different result. And remember, to get the grade you got at least two graders have looked at your coin.

[markn]

so if pcgs say a coin has au details cleaned and I know it hasn't been cleaned how do I dispute the bodybag before they send it back?

You can't.  PCGS have vastly more experience that anyone on this forum will ever have detecting cleaned coins so while you "know" it hasn't been cleaned there's a good chance it has.  Just in way you cannot detect.  We've had a few coins come back "cleaned" that we swore we not.  But when they've returned close examination has revealed something we didn't notice.

That being said, try sending it back in but be prepared to pay $$ and be prepared for the same answer.  You might also consider sending it to NGC.  I have a number of coins (mostly early 19th century Spanish/Brazilian colonial) that PCGS called cleaned and I can't see what they are talking about.  But they all have a similar "look" so if something has been done to them it's the same with all of them and it's something I do not recognise. When I get around to it I'll send them into NGC and see what they think.

[trout]

I have a number of coins (mostly early 19th century Spanish/Brazilian colonial) that PCGS called cleaned and I can't see what they are talking about. But they all have a similar "look" so if something has been done to them it's the same with all of them and it's something I do not recognise.

I would imagine that a lot of these types of coins spent long periods of time at sea in wooden chests on sailing vessels .
Maybe the humidity and the oils in the wood have affected the coins is some way or another.
Or maybe the roll and pitch of the ship moved the coins in the chests as well.

[serial]

how is this ms66
http://www.pcgs.com/pop/valueview.aspx?s=205045
better than this
http://www.pcgs.com/Cert/29812279.html
oh and pcgs take crap pics!

[Unicorn]

:laugh2: ..... perhaps beauty is in the eye of the beholder?

[serial]

hhhmm not sure what that picture means but yes I will agree that the other has eye appeal with the toning but mine has a almost perfect strike, is covered in lustre and besides a small little spot right in the middle of the coin is perfect
I am not sure why my coin didn't get up to 66

[stevo1962]

hhhmm not sure what that picture means but yes I will agree that the other has eye appeal with the toning but mine has a almost perfect strike, is covered in lustre and besides a small little spot right in the middle of the coin is perfect
I am not sure why my coin didn't get up to 66

 Unicorn means beeholder/beholder.Your king looks to have less hair on in maybe

[serial]

ooohh lol that's funny!
totally missed that here