Roxbury's Auction

Started by dcoin, January 15, 2014, 06:11:43 PM

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dcoin

Roxbury's has just released its upcoming auction catalogue, seems to have ALOT more quality material than their usual auctions, hopefully a good sign for the year ahead and may include some ex-rare coin company stock???

The $1,000 note in particular will be of high interest to see how it goes, slightly out of my price range though......:laughingneqw:

https://www.roxburys.com/

Fr45h3R

Quote from: 'dcoin' pid='39677' dateline='1389771703'Roxbury's has just released its upcoming auction catalogue, seems to have ALOT more quality material than their usual auctions, hopefully a good sign for the year ahead and may include some ex-rare coin company stock???

The $1,000 note in particular will be of high interest to see how it goes, slightly out of my price range though......:laughingneqw:

https://www.roxburys.com/

ssshhh... don't tell everyone :angel:

purplepennyhunter

I find that catalogue completely useless. The only way to buy is to visit and view. They don't even supply slab numbers so you can look up the PCGS graded coins' images yourself.
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Fr45h3R

Quote from: 'purplepennyhunter' pid='39684' dateline='1389774393'I find that catalogue completely useless. The only way to buy is to visit and view. They don't even supply slab numbers so you can look up the PCGS graded coins' images yourself.

I got caught out once, they listed the grade, not the colour of a copper coin. Was even specified red and brown in description, turned out to be a BN coin (still a nice coin though)
They've done it on some lots this time but I'll check the colour before bidding.

-rob

dcoin

Quote from: 'Fr45h3R' pid='39686' dateline='1389775995'
Quote from: 'purplepennyhunter' pid='39684' dateline='1389774393'I find that catalogue completely useless. The only way to buy is to visit and view. They don't even supply slab numbers so you can look up the PCGS graded coins' images yourself.

I got caught out once, they listed the grade, not the colour of a copper coin. Was even specified red and brown in description, turned out to be a BN coin (still a nice coin though)
They've done it on some lots this time but I'll check the colour before bidding.

-rob

Don't ever purchase a coin sight unseen, even PCGS. You may get lucky, however, generally it's not a good idea in my experience.

Bigfellani5

There is a nice Hogarth and Ericsson token in there. Never seen one of these before in real life.

nealeffendi

Some of the estimates seem way to low. PCGS MS64 Centenary florins at $450? They sell for double that. 1956 sixpences in MS64 have a blue sheet of $250, so why a $100 estimate?

stevo1962

Quote from: 'nealeffendi' pid='39702' dateline='1389826935'Some of the estimates seem way to low. PCGS MS64 Centenary florins at $450? They sell for double that. 1956 sixpences in MS64 have a blue sheet of $250, so why a $100 estimate?

Probably to drum up some interst for people that think they might
get them cheap
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duggee27

do not forget to add buyers premium of 20% plus 3% card fee if applicable:dodgy:


from cattledog....
Estimates
Estimates included in this catalogue are intended as a guide only. Lots may sell higher or lower. For most regular items the estimate is based on
the current market value. However, for rare, unique and unusual items and bulk lots, the estimate serves only as an educated guess and may sell
higher.

Bigfellani5

It may also be a bit of a reflection of the reserve if any on the item

markn

Low estimates are also a great way enhancing how strong an auction appeared to be.  It's far sexier for an auction report in CAB to say "Centennial florins were particularly strong with PCGS graded examples achieving nearly 3 times estimate".  The alternative is "*crickets chirping because we estimated the coins accurately*".

Of course it could just be a mistake on behalf of the cataloger.
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Steveqld

Unrelated to low estimates but I had my eye on lot 473 described as:

1922 (sixpence) SCARCE Struck on rusty dies, Usual Weakness EF Est $160.

That sounded fair but I would have put it at aEF.  The surface was showing some wear and very small "pitting" that I take was from the rusty dies, discoloured and not really an attractive coin but about the price I was after.

Blue book has an EF valued at $130

What happened?  It went for $1200, well above the blue book value of even Unc. Did I miss something?????

Goldseeker

Maybe as it was a one off issue?
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markn

Quote from: 'Steveqld' pid='41315' dateline='1392009215'Unrelated to low estimates but I had my eye on lot 473 described as:

1922 (sixpence) SCARCE Struck on rusty dies, Usual Weakness EF Est $160.

That sounded fair but I would have put it at aEF.  The surface was showing some wear and very small "pitting" that I take was from the rusty dies, discoloured and not really an attractive coin but about the price I was after.

Blue book has an EF valued at $130

What happened?  It went for $1200, well above the blue book value of even Unc. Did I miss something?????

Maybe it was UNC.  I've picked up a couple of 1922 6d's described by dealers at EF that were clearly UNC.  They are a notoriously weakly struck year and that can fool people.  Perhaps it didn't fool a couple of people in the Roxbury's auction.
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wwwww

Quote from: 'Steveqld' pid='41315' dateline='1392009215'Unrelated to low estimates but I had my eye on lot 473 described as:

1922 (sixpence) SCARCE Struck on rusty dies, Usual Weakness EF Est $160.

That sounded fair but I would have put it at aEF.  The surface was showing some wear and very small "pitting" that I take was from the rusty dies, discoloured and not really an attractive coin but about the price I was after.

Blue book has an EF valued at $130

What happened?  It went for $1200, well above the blue book value of even Unc. Did I miss something?????

Obviously it was mint state. The 1922 is often undergraded due to their poor reverse strikes.