PCGS Submissions

[trout]

The coin is very lustrous and very baggy. I agree with the PCGS grade.
My conclusion from this exercise is that scanc can be very misleading.

Not too sure if I agree with the grade, Far too baggy to be simply bag marks.
To me this has obviously seen some circulation but the inherent hardness of the metal has protected it somewhat .
Baggy to me equates to the damage done at the mint and in transit to the banks, NOT bashed around to buggery in its first few days/weeks of circulation  but still has luster .
If this was a Canberra florin it would come back as AU55-58 at best :ok:
This coin has obviously seen some circulation, FAR too knocked around IMHO
Not having a go simply stating my opinion on the images supplied :ok:

[emu666]

The coin is very lustrous and very baggy. I agree with the PCGS grade.
My conclusion from this exercise is that scans can be very misleading.

Not too sure if I agree with the grade, Far too baggy to be simply bag marks.
To me this has obviously seen some circulation but the inherent hardness of the metal has protected it somewhat .
Baggy to me equates to the damage done at the mint and in transit to the banks, NOT bashed around to buggery in its first few days/weeks of circulation  but still has luster .
If this was a Canberra florin it would come back as AU55-58 at best :ok:
This coin has obviously seen some circulation, FAR too knocked around IMHO
Not having a go simply stating my opinion on the images supplied :ok:

That turns out not to be the case.
If metal has been removed due to circulation (as opposed to it  not being there in the first place due to a poor strike for example) it counts as wear so will grade as AU.
A Canberra florin with the same amount of bagging and lustre would also come back as MS61.
As would an 1893-M veil sovereign for example: http://www.drakesterling.com.au/coins-for-sale/products/1893-melbourne-veiled-head-sovereign-1
The good thing about the Sheldon system is its consistency.

The thing about bagmarks is you don't know where they occurred. You know my mule managed to get around and see a bit of the sights as I told you I got it out of a poker machine.
Suppose instead I told you I pulled it from an original mint bag?
I have pulled lower grade coins out of original bags and rolls.

[trout]

NO worries Feathers, I was just calling it as I would grade it and gave an explanation as to why that's all :ok:
Jusus , I thought I had this Sheldon thing down pat.
Ah well back to the drawing board :blush:

[emu666]

I hope my explanation was helpful



Here's an easy one from the latest submission (grades received this morning)

http://www.pcgs.com/Cert/28869206/
I'm hiding it in this thread so Purple Pussy cannot see the coin and try to get it from me.

[markn]

http://www.pcgs.com/Cert/28869206/

Nice.

[echidna]

I'd be interested to know if PCGS take the softness of the metal into account.
My impression is that the adjectival grading system is slightly more lenient on softer metals.
However I have not seen anything to indicate that this is the case with PCGS/NGC.

[Fr45h3R]

Stunning coin emu!

Would they have graded that a few years back ? Weren't coins like that coming back questionable colour ?

[emu666]

I'd be interested to know if PCGS take the softness of the metal into account.
My impression is that the adjectival grading system is slightly more lenient on softer metals.
However I have not seen anything to indicate that this is the case with PCGS/NGC.

I believe you are correct as the grade takes into account surface preservation, strike, lustre and eye appeal. The type of metal isn't relevant.

Stunning coin emu!

Would they have graded that a few years back ? Weren't coins like that coming back questionable colour ?

Yes; quite often.


Some still are:
http://www.pcgs.com/Cert/28869178/
(Once again; I hope Purple Pussy doesn't see this one)

[robbiegal]

meow!!!
at this very moment I am a very green with envy pussy cat!!
exceptional coins big bird  

[echidna]

PCGS will also (in effect) grade the planchet.
Although they don't seem to mention it.
In other words planchet streaks and flaws translate to a lower grade or a no grade.
Its a big issue with aussie copper.

[Nightparrot]

I'd be interested to know if PCGS take the softness of the metal into account.
My impression is that the adjectival grading system is slightly more lenient on softer metals.
However I have not seen anything to indicate that this is the case with PCGS/NGC.

I believe you are correct as the grade takes into account surface preservation, strike, lustre and eye appeal. The type of metal isn't relevant.

Stunning coin emu!

Would they have graded that a few years back ? Weren't coins like that coming back questionable colour ?

Yes; quite often.


Some still are:
http://www.pcgs.com/Cert/28869178/
(Once again; I hope Purple Pussy doesn't see this one)

Emu. I have a purple penny like that. Did you get it from Klaus (unremembered surname)?

[nealeffendi]

Nightparrot, you probably mean Klaus Ford

[emu666]

It was a long time ago but I think it came straight out of a 1964 penny roll.
It is a natural coin.

[purplepennyhunter]

This is the infamous "purple penny", the original -and it belongs to feathers. There are others with similar hues but this is the actual coin. Shame on PCGS for their questionable colour.

[accumulator]

Whats questionable about the colour ?,looks like a lovely natural toning to me .