PCGS Submissions

[trout]

I'm not surprised that NGC upgraded the coin two points. NGC is not known for their consistency. I wish some of my PCGS-graded coins upgraded by two points!

That's the funny part, NGC had already graded this particular coin at MS63 :ok:

[stevo1962]

That's a nice group of mules Stevo!

Did you noodle them all?

Thanks Uni but no I bought them all about 3 years ago,I'm hoping that a couple
of them might grade to AU58 at PCGS

[trout]

I just got this link from Eric, looks pretty good in the new slab
out of 38 graded there is another one at this grade but none higher.
Highest PCGS coin is a MS64.
Feeling as flash as a rat with a Gold tooth at the moment:yahoo::angel::whistle2:

http://www.ngccoin.com/certlookup/index.aspx?CertNumber=3700615-003

[stevo1962]

I just got this link from Eric, looks pretty good in the new slab
out of 38 graded there is another one at this grade but none higher.
Highest PCGS coin is a MS64.
Feeling as flash as a rat with a Gold tooth at the moment:yahoo::angel::whistle2:

http://www.ngccoin.com/certlookup/index.aspx?CertNumber=3700615-003

You've fallen on your feet this time Jim but I would definitely avoid repeating the same process for any other coin.Congradulations on
the upgrade:yahoo:

[trout]

You've fallen on your feet this time Jim but I would definitely avoid repeating the same process for any other coin.Congradulations on
the upgradeYahoo

I don't know, from MS63 to MS65 there wouldn't be that much of an increase in value would there?

[bellyflorin]

now sending to pcgs for a crossover grading  :yahoo:

[trout]

now sending to pcgs for a crossover grading  :yahoo:

Nup, I'm done mucking about with this one :blush:

[stevo1962]

You've fallen on your feet this time Jim but I would definitely avoid repeating the same process for any other coin.Congradulations on
the upgradeYahoo

I don't know, from MS63 to MS65 there wouldn't be that much of an increase in value would there?

Probably double the value at a guess

[trout]

You've fallen on your feet this time Jim but I would definitely avoid repeating the same process for any other coin.Congradulations on
the upgradeYahoo

I don't know, from MS63 to MS65 there wouldn't be that much of an increase in value would there?

Probably double the value at a guess

The other MS65 one of these sold at auction for about $1400-$1500 four years ago so not that much of a difference considering at MS 63 they are valued at $1100-$1200 .
Prices may have changed over the last few years but not by that much IMHO  :ok:

[robbiegal]

well done mr fish
the coin looks lovely all re-slabbed and everything
consider it a recondition job!

[trout]

well done mr fish
the coin looks lovely all re-slabbed and everything
consider it a recondition job!

Thanks Mate :friends:
I was seriously thinking of selling this if it came back in a low end MS slab because of that "Altered Surfaces" decision by PCGS and buying another one for my Proc collection .
Mark and I have both seen this coin "In the Flesh" and we both agree that it IS not only problem free but a super nice coin to boot.
The grade by NGC was all the vindication I needed so this little puppy will be staying with ME (and the rest of its proc Mates )

[ausjack]

:kez_15: Well truck me, if you would have said to me even 6 months ago trout will become a slab man I would have told ya ya dreamin and pull ya head out but now I've seen it with me own two beady little eyes I'm just flabbergasted and ya could knock me over with a feather and want to know what's happened to the world :dodgy: gee all this sudden change is takin it's toll on me :heat: :laugh2:

[emu666]

well done mr fish
the coin looks lovely all re-slabbed and everything
consider it a recondition job!

Thanks Mate :friends:
I was seriously thinking of selling this if it came back in a low end MS slab because of that "Altered Surfaces" decision by PCGS and buying another one for my Proc collection .
Mark and I have both seen this coin "In the Flesh" and we both agree that it IS not only problem free but a super nice coin to boot.
The grade by NGC was all the vindication I needed so this little puppy will be staying with ME (and the rest of its proc Mates )

If you like a particular coin, keep it.

[trout]

If you like a particular coin, keep it.

:agreed:

[emu666]

good luck with the submission Steve
couple of very nice scarcer dates

that 1939 looks pretty darn good to me

Thanks Robbie I bought it as EF really cheaply a couple of years ago
and after seeing lots of PCGS slabbed examples I think it will do OK.
I've got to send 5 or 6  2000 $1 mules away for grading next week
and I think they'll do well also because PCGS tend to overgrade these coins IMO

Their grading is consistent across different series.
With decimals most people expect an unc coin to be fully brilliant and with little bagging as obtained from the better mint sets. In fact most of these are MS65 or better. An unc coin is one which does not have any metal missing due to wear. So it can be dull and baggy and still is MS62, or can be brilliant and baggy and MS62 (I have one that is very lustrous and extremely baggy. It was graded as MS61 and the grading is correct - there is no actual wear).
The AU58 and AU55's can vary a lot in terms of lustre and eye appeal. Prices should reflect this; i.e. don't buy by just the grade. Aluminium bronze is a very tough metal so the coin will have a lot more circulation before it wears down to AU58 or AU55 in comparison with say a silver coin so often the coin is duller.

Good to know that excessive bagging wont stop a coin from achieving an MS grade,That gives me a bit of confidence in the mules I'll be sending over

Unc mule (rescued from a poker machine at Burswood Casino late August 2004).



Looks like a really nice unc in these two scans.

Obverse at a different angle:


Looks a bit baggier but still far better than its PCGS garde:


The coin is very lustrous and very baggy. I agree with the PCGS grade.
 My conclusion from this exercise is that scans can be very misleading.