PCGS Submissions

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stevo1962

Quote from: 'trout' pid='41564' dateline='1392334883'It may just be the pic's but this seems to be missing most of its original luster.
As far as wear goes I recon its aUnc.
For a AU58 grade you need most of the original luster to still be there :ok:
If there is very little luster left on the coin then it may be indicative of a coin that has been dipped once too often  and will get a "Details" grade :angel:

It has more of a frosty look to it rather than dazzling lustre.Eric
thought it was worthy of the trip so I hope it does well
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stevo1962

Another of my coins winging its way to PCGS



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trout

QuoteEric
thought it was worthy of the trip so I hope it does well

Can't argue with that logic , hope it does well Mate.:whistle2:
Update us on the results when you get them :ok:
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robbiegal

good luck with the submission Steve
couple of very nice scarcer dates

that 1939 looks pretty darn good to me

stevo1962

Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='41670' dateline='1392416272'good luck with the submission Steve
couple of very nice scarcer dates

that 1939 looks pretty darn good to me

Thanks Robbie I bought it as EF really cheaply a couple of years ago
and after seeing lots of PCGS slabbed examples I think it will do OK.
I've got to send 5 or 6  2000 $1 mules away for grading next week
and I think they'll do well also because PCGS tend to overgrade these coins IMO
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robbiegal

í had a close look at the 1939 cause you have monster pics up & i'd agree that it's EF - that is what I pegged it as (maybe a E/F+)
it is a sweet coin

they are elusive in higher grades and have such soft obverse strike that they are hard to grade as well
the shield looks very nicely struck up on that coin

the mules are a popular error with the decimal collectors, that is for sure

trout

QuotePCGS tend to overgrade these coins IMO
And that's a good thing because :blink:
I doubt that this is the case tho
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emu666

Quote from: 'stevo1962' pid='41675' dateline='1392418743'
Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='41670' dateline='1392416272'good luck with the submission Steve
couple of very nice scarcer dates

that 1939 looks pretty darn good to me

Thanks Robbie I bought it as EF really cheaply a couple of years ago
and after seeing lots of PCGS slabbed examples I think it will do OK.
I've got to send 5 or 6  2000 $1 mules away for grading next week
and I think they'll do well also because PCGS tend to overgrade these coins IMO

Their grading is consistent across different series.
With decimals most people expect an unc coin to be fully brilliant and with little bagging as obtained from the better mint sets. In fact most of these are MS65 or better. An unc coin is one which does not have any metal missing due to wear. So it can be dull and baggy and still is MS62, or can be brilliant and baggy and MS62 (I have one that is very lustrous and extremely baggy. It was graded as MS61 and the grading is correct - there is no actual wear).
The AU58 and AU55's can vary a lot in terms of lustre and eye appeal. Prices should reflect this; i.e. don't buy by just the grade. Aluminium bronze is a very tough metal so the coin will have a lot more circulation before it wears down to AU58 or AU55 in comparison with say a silver coin so often the coin is duller.

trout

Well my Gold Ducat has been to the other side of the Globe three times now.

1st trip to the States it came back with a MS63 grade, that was nice. :good:
2nd trip and it came back in a UNC "Details" slab and that was rather disappointing :cray:

The 3rd trip (it's not home yet) and I get the news from Eric that they now consider this to be a MS65 coin after all :wavemulticolor:

Well worth the effort and a couple of bucks spent :)
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stevo1962

Quote from: 'emu666' pid='41680' dateline='1392420869'
Quote from: 'stevo1962' pid='41675' dateline='1392418743'
Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='41670' dateline='1392416272'good luck with the submission Steve
couple of very nice scarcer dates

that 1939 looks pretty darn good to me

Thanks Robbie I bought it as EF really cheaply a couple of years ago
and after seeing lots of PCGS slabbed examples I think it will do OK.
I've got to send 5 or 6  2000 $1 mules away for grading next week
and I think they'll do well also because PCGS tend to overgrade these coins IMO

Their grading is consistent across different series.
With decimals most people expect an unc coin to be fully brilliant and with little bagging as obtained from the better mint sets. In fact most of these are MS65 or better. An unc coin is one which does not have any metal missing due to wear. So it can be dull and baggy and still is MS62, or can be brilliant and baggy and MS62 (I have one that is very lustrous and extremely baggy. It was graded as MS61 and the grading is correct - there is no actual wear).
The AU58 and AU55's can vary a lot in terms of lustre and eye appeal. Prices should reflect this; i.e. don't buy by just the grade. Aluminium bronze is a very tough metal so the coin will have a lot more circulation before it wears down to AU58 or AU55 in comparison with say a silver coin so often the coin is duller.

Good to know that excessive bagging wont stop a coin from achieving an MS grade,That gives me a bit of confidence in the mules I'll be sending over
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markn

Quote from: 'trout' pid='41699' dateline='1392427150'Well my Gold Ducat has been to the other side of the Globe three times now.

1st trip to the States it came back with a MS63 grade, that was nice. :good:
2nd trip and it came back in a UNC "Details" slab and that was rather disappointing :cray:

The 3rd trip (it's not home yet) and I get the news from Eric that they now consider this to be a MS65 coin after all :wavemulticolor:

Well worth the effort and a couple of bucks spent :)

Thank goodness.  I knew it was a good coin.
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trout

QuoteThank goodness. I knew it was a good coin.

:agreed:
I was stunned when it came back in that bloody details slab.
Where they got "Altered surfaces" from is beyond me, when I first cracked this out and had a real good look at it .
I'm buggered if I could see any problems with the coin :@
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stevo1962

These are the Mules I'll be sending to PCGS,I think they are all worthy of slabbing and for me they are very difficult to nail down a grade in their raw state.Some are a bit baggy but I think they'll be OK



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drakesterling

Quote from: 'trout' pid='41703' dateline='1392428146'
QuoteThank goodness. I knew it was a good coin.

:agreed:
I was stunned when it came back in that bloody details slab.
Where they got "Altered surfaces" from is beyond me, when I first cracked this out and had a real good look at it .
I'm buggered if I could see any problems with the coin :@

I'm not surprised that NGC upgraded the coin two points. NGC is not known for their consistency. I wish some of my PCGS-graded coins upgraded by two points!

Unicorn

That's a nice group of mules Stevo!

Did you noodle them all?