2013 Purple Coronation $2 Naked

[purplepennyhunter]

I think Trout you said you did it but we managed to remove the purple paint from the circulation coin with minimal (no) effort. I now have a naked previously purple $2 coin.

Pics coming soon

[JeffH]

Why? {I know; because you could.}

[SULLA]

Recommend you do not post pics and that you delete or edit your post!
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Extract from Crimes (Currency) Act 1981

Defacing or destroying current coins or current paper money

16. A person shall not, without the consent, in writing, of an authorised person, intentionally deface, disfigure, mutilate or destroy any coin or paper money that is lawfully current in Australia.

Penalty:

    in the case of a person, not being a body corporate – $5,000 or imprisonment for two years, or both; or
    in the case of a person, being a body corporate – $10,000.

Note: 'Paper money' means money comprising a banknote written, printed or otherwise made on paper or any other material. Paper money shall be taken to be current paper money if it is lawfully current in Australia or in a country other than Australia by virtue of a law in force in Australia or in that country, as the case may be.

All Australian banknotes, present and all past issues, are lawfully current in Australia.

http://www.comlaw.gov.au/Details/C2012C00781

[purplepennyhunter]

I haven't yet said what happened so here are a few options.

1. My 6 year old  swallowed the purple coin and it reappeared without it's coloured stripes.

2. As I walked by a bowl of acetone it fell in and the purple came off.

3. I soaked the coin in acetone to remove fingerprints so I could keep the coin in pristine condition in my collection, quite by accident I concluded that the purple came off.

4. I left the coin outside and acid rain removed the purple.

5. I went to the chlorinated indoor pool for a swim with $2 in my pocket. When I went to spend my $2 the purple was gone!

6. I gave my children a purple $2, keen to get them into collecting this coin is perfect and intriguing to them. I'm stuffed if I know what they did but they came and saw me and the purple was gone!

[Steveqld]

I haven't yet said what happened so here are a few options.

1. My 6 year old  swallowed the purple coin and it reappeared without it's coloured stripes.

2. As I walked by a bowl of acetone it fell in and the purple came off.

3. I soaked the coin in acetone to remove fingerprints so I could keep the coin in pristine condition in my collection, quite by accident I concluded that the purple came off.

4. I left the coin outside and acid rain removed the purple.

5. I went to the chlorinated indoor pool for a swim with $2 in my pocket. When I went to spend my $2 the purple was gone!

6. I gave my children a purple $2, keen to get them into collecting this coin is perfect and intriguing to them. I'm stuffed if I know what they did but they came and saw me and the purple was gone!

Yes I think the important word in the section is "intentionally" and you can't help bad luck.  However I don't think I would be keeping it after option 1.  That implies it went in one end and came out the other.  I think I would be letting the coin go.

[robbiegal]

the guys at the Goulburn RSL club said that they opened a poppy $2 roll and a very many of the the poppies had fallen off, so they were really disappointed as the rolls were for the $10 fundraising cards  for the RSL

I think that the padded ink has some fine tuning to be done yet
i'd be very dubious of things like colour variations if they are so susceptible to damage

[trout]

Recommend you do not post pics and that you delete or edit your post!
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Extract from Crimes (Currency) Act 1981

Defacing or destroying current coins or current paper money

16. A person shall not, without the consent, in writing, of an authorised person, intentionally deface, disfigure, mutilate or destroy any coin or paper money that is lawfully current in Australia.

Penalty:

    in the case of a person, not being a body corporate – $5,000 or imprisonment for two years, or both; or
    in the case of a person, being a body corporate – $10,000.

Note: 'Paper money' means money comprising a banknote written, printed or otherwise made on paper or any other material. Paper money shall be taken to be current paper money if it is lawfully current in Australia or in a country other than Australia by virtue of a law in force in Australia or in that country, as the case may be.

All Australian banknotes, present and all past issues, are lawfully current in Australia.

http://www.comlaw.gov.au/Details/C2012C00781

By virtue of buying a coin it means that I own it.
If I want to deface it in anyway is my choice.
The ONLY time it becomes a problem is if I want to spend it or sell it.
If I KEEP it then that is the end of the story (I normally chuck em down the well).
The defacement laws are there to try and stop altering coins to try and make them a higher face value.
Remember when the $1 coin first came into play and people were painting 10 cent coins gold :dodgy::dodgy:
The old rule where any defacement of the Monarch was a treasonable offence just wouldn't tread water in Australia .
The RULE/outrage that will be imposed on coin alterers/fakers that try and falsify an error for profit on a coin by the collecting community will be swift and immediate :good:

[Coins from Vending]

So your still running the line that "I" defaced the purple coin???

Now in your words, cause you seem to be the judge, the jury and the executioner on these things, what actually is an error??

Is it a coin that comes from the mint and is different to other coins in shape, colour or form???

Forget the fact that you acetoned "YOUR" coin to see what you could do to "produce" an error, I did nothing to my coin that is exactly how it arrived out of its mint security bag straight from the CBA straight from the mint. So if my coin was a different colour to other coins straight from the mint, would my coin being different imply a fault??

[SULLA]

By virtue of buying a coin it means that I own it.
If I want to deface it in anyway is my choice.
The ONLY time it becomes a problem is if I want to spend it or sell it.
If I KEEP it then that is the end of the story (I normally chuck em down the well).
The defacement laws are there to try and stop altering coins to try and make them a higher face value.
Remember when the $1 coin first came into play and people were painting 10 cent coins gold DodgyDodgy
The old rule where any defacement of the Monarch was a treasonable offence just wouldn't tread water in Australia .
The RULE/outrage that will be imposed on coin alterers/fakers that try and falsify an error for profit on a coin by the collecting community will be swift and immediate Good

Sorry Mr Trout, but your interpretation of the law is open to argument simply because you are making claims NOT mentioned/covered  in the Act.

The law is clear and there are no exceptions!
If you wish I can elaborate, but if I do, my reputation with others here will suffer more!

16. A person shall not, without the consent, in writing, of an authorised person, intentionally deface, disfigure, mutilate or destroy any coin or paper money that is lawfully current in Australia.

That is what the law states.

Where did you get all the other fluff?

[Unicorn]

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Yaaaawn ........ perhaps Trout photoshopped it. (More to his shed than meets the eye ....... nudge nudge wink wink say no more!)

[trout]

Now in your words, cause you seem to be the judge, the jury and the executioner on these things,

Not at all mate.
I simply produced a coin that you have purported to have "Found".
You "may" have done this but Your attitude towards the coin collectors buying on eBay supplied your own "Noose"
This coin IS new and there may be variations in the colour.
This at the moment isn't a proven fact and your "Jump on the bandwagon" listing and the TOTAL disregard for buyers I personally find Distasteful and I feel that I am not the only member on this site that feels this way.
If you feel affronted by this then I am sorry, But I do tend to call a spade a spade and that is just the way I am built.
If you don't like it then simply don't read any of my posts :ok:
I have been on coin sites for a few years now and there will ALWAYS been the odd poster that requires authentication of an "Error" before posting it on eBay, You however didn't care and listed the coin anyway thinking that "All ebayers are Mugs".
Totally inappropriate  and to quote RG "Disgusting"

[Fulvio]

...what actually is an error??

An error is something that goes wrong with the minting process. Such as a die breaking for example. Not the use of different dies, which is a variety. Nor an accident such as a cold shut, out-of-collar strike, misfeed or similar, which are flaws.

Paint variations would clearly be flaws.

Unless tampered with outside the mint, which would make them PMD. Not that I think anyone is saying you did that. What everyone is upset about is your attitude towards people, not the flawed coin itself.

[purplepennyhunter]

I'm aware this is going off topic but I disagree Fulvio. An error is a malfunction of the press such as when the planchet fails to feed or follow the process correctly causing an out of collar, partial collar, broadstrike, ramstrike, double strike, multiple strike, off-centre, brockage etc etc.

[markn]

Fulvio you're the first person I've come across who has decided that striking mishaps are not errors.  Kudos on taking an contrary standpoint.  That being said I completely and utterly disagree with you

[Coins from Vending]

On another point too, I read ***moderator edit*** and got coat hangered for it.

What is the going rate for these $2 coins in your opinion, anyone can answer that??

I'd be interested to see the values???