The slabbing thread

Started by trout, July 22, 2013, 09:45:28 PM

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trout

Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='22876' dateline='1374751592'http://coins.about.com/od/coingrading/ig/Fake-PCGS-Slab-Diagnostics/

http://www.pcgs.com/News/Counterfeit-Pcgs-Holders

HeHe, Like I said look at the coin not the bloody slab :ok:
Aim well to enjoy life. You only get One shot at it.
Illegitimi non carborundum

robbiegal

yeah, but, there are bloody fake slabs

so sometimes, a person can't win in this market

duggee27

Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='22841' dateline='1374739017'
Quote from: 'duggee27' pid='22824' dateline='1374728978'i have both raw and slabbed
either way if the coin is good enough i will buy it
but sooner or later i will get the better ones slabbed when i finish admiring them in their raw state such as my stunning 1966 half/penny - i reckon 66/67RD so my 'grandies' (none yet) can do what they like with them.
meanwhile am trying to control the buy buy disease
:good::dance2:

1966 halfpenny? ..........

lemme see it buster!! ha ha

correction  .... thats 1963 ... got carried away with 666's

robbiegal

it's hard to get a really beautiful 1963 halfpenny

trout

Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='22878' dateline='1374751850'yeah, but, there are bloody fake slabs

so sometimes, a person can't win in this market

Yes you can Mate, just buy your coins raw and IF you get an exceptional coin and you want it in a slab simply send it away and make a quid on it.
This slobbing thing in Aus is quite young and there ARE still some great raw coins out there.
All you have to do is beat the dealers in the race for them :ok:
Personally I prefer my coins to be accessible and NOT encased in plastic YUK.
If you are in this for the money Slobbing is the way to go :ok:
If you are in it for the pleasure then Bugger it, Get em raw after learning how to pick a fake and grade for yourself.:angel:
Aim well to enjoy life. You only get One shot at it.
Illegitimi non carborundum

accumulator

I'd just like to say that not all problem coins are raw, i've seen plenty of problem coin in slabs,i buy both slabs & raw but i do love the challenge to buy raw coins that will slab eventually in high MS.

dcoin

Quote from: 'trout' pid='22884' dateline='1374752707'
Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='22878' dateline='1374751850'yeah, but, there are bloody fake slabs

so sometimes, a person can't win in this market

Yes you can Mate, just buy your coins raw and IF you get an exceptional coin and you want it in a slab simply send it away and make a quid on it.
This slobbing thing in Aus is quite young and there ARE still some great raw coins out there.
All you have to do is beat the dealers in the race for them :ok:
Personally I prefer my coins to be accessible and NOT encased in plastic YUK.
If you are in this for the money Slobbing is the way to go :ok:
If you are in it for the pleasure then Bugger it, Get em raw after learning how to pick a fake and grade for yourself.:angel:

While you can probably make money slabbing coins you can also loose alot of money if you are wrong. For example you buy a gem florin which comes back ms63 or a unc 1925 penny which comes back as au58, not to mention the months it takes to get a coin graded.

trout

QuoteWhile you can probably make money slabbing coins you can also loose alot of money if you are wrong. For example you buy a gem florin which comes back ms63 or a unc 1925 penny which comes back as au58, not to mention the months it takes to get a coin graded.

I think the people doing most of the slabbing are far too good at what they do to make such basic mistakes :ok:
Aim well to enjoy life. You only get One shot at it.
Illegitimi non carborundum

markn

Quote from: 'trout' pid='22898' dateline='1374781687'I think the people doing most of the slabbing are far too good at what they do to make such basic mistakes :ok:

Everyone makes mistakes.  Anyone who tells you they've never made a mistake getting a coin slabbed is a liar or has sent very few.  You only need to look at some of the slabs appearing on eBay now to understand that a lot of material people send is rubbish.
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trout

Quote from: 'markn' pid='22899' dateline='1374791294'
Quote from: 'trout' pid='22898' dateline='1374781687'I think the people doing most of the slabbing are far too good at what they do to make such basic mistakes :ok:

Everyone makes mistakes.  Anyone who tells you they've never made a mistake getting a coin slabbed is a liar or has sent very few.  You only need to look at some of the slabs appearing on eBay now to understand that a lot of material people send is rubbish.

So it's not just a matter of getting the grade right the coin type is important as well.
I have noticed the 1966 proofs are doing particularly well slabbed.
Aim well to enjoy life. You only get One shot at it.
Illegitimi non carborundum

markn

Quote from: 'trout' pid='22900' dateline='1374792828'So it's not just a matter of getting the grade right the coin type is important as well.
I have noticed the 1966 proofs are doing particularly well slabbed.

Some of them do.  There's no point sending spotty or toned ones though.
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trout

Quote from: 'markn' pid='22930' dateline='1374827040'
Quote from: 'trout' pid='22900' dateline='1374792828'So it's not just a matter of getting the grade right the coin type is important as well.
I have noticed the 1966 proofs are doing particularly well slabbed.

Some of them do.  There's no point sending spotty or toned ones though.

:agreed:
nobody wants the toned 50 cent coins .
I was under the assumption that toning didn't affect the TPG's grade as long as all the underlying lustre is still there.
Ah well wrong again :dash1:
Aim well to enjoy life. You only get One shot at it.
Illegitimi non carborundum

wwwww

Quote from: 'trout' pid='22931' dateline='1374827594'
Quote from: 'markn' pid='22930' dateline='1374827040'
Quote from: 'trout' pid='22900' dateline='1374792828'So it's not just a matter of getting the grade right the coin type is important as well.
I have noticed the 1966 proofs are doing particularly well slabbed.

Some of them do.  There's no point sending spotty or toned ones though.

:agreed:
nobody wants the toned 50 cent coins .
I was under the assumption that toning didn't affect the TPG's grade as long as all the underlying lustre is still there.
Ah well wrong again :dash1:

Toning is a form of environmental damage so yes it does negatively affect the grading. The reason toned coins seem to grade higher is because most untoned coins have been cleaned (a light clean or dip won't result in a no-grade but the grade will be lowered). It takes exceptionally beautiful toning to earn a higher grading for a coin.

MobOfRoos

Quote from: 'trout' pid='22877' dateline='1374751736'
Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='22876' dateline='1374751592'http://coins.about.com/od/coingrading/ig/Fake-PCGS-Slab-Diagnostics/

http://www.pcgs.com/News/Counterfeit-Pcgs-Holders

HeHe, Like I said look at the coin not the bloody slab :ok:

I hear that a lot, but if that were true there would be no need for slabs.

Quote from: 'wwwww' pid='22804' dateline='1374716540'Yes, you'll find that the main reason many of the more experienced collectors are switching over to slabs isn't because they love the plastic, but rather because it's the only way to source quality coins in today's market.


Have a look at the Roxbury, Noble or Downie auctions and you will find lots of high grade coins unslabbed.

Fr45h3R

Quote from: 'MobOfRoos' pid='23014' dateline='1374895863'Have a look at the Roxbury, Noble or Downie auctions and you will find lots of high grade coins unslabbed.

If you have the option to attend these auctions, its easy to pick the better coins. It's the ones the dealers are bidding on :angel: