Wavey Base opinion needed

[Fordprefect]

Yes I agree its definately genuine and the buyer obviously doesnt know what a wavy 20 looks like
or might have been testing to see if you were confident enough to stick to your guns,either way
its a mongrel act and unfortunately these idiots are out there

Buyer/Seller is a crock

He must know, does the following listing look familiar.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1966-AUSTRALIAN-WAVVY-2-20-CENT-PIECE-/261224786170?nma=true&si=2RO5gEsmyfjJzOL6ZurkJPpt%252FmQ%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

[ausjack]

Yep looks like the same coin to me FP, it has the straight mark on the top of the 2 and those 2 funny little marks on the bottom on the left of the base line..I'd say same coin :good:

[Steveqld]

Yes I agree its definately genuine and the buyer obviously doesnt know what a wavy 20 looks like
or might have been testing to see if you were confident enough to stick to your guns,either way
its a mongrel act and unfortunately these idiots are out there

Buyer/Seller is a crock

He must know, does the following listing look familiar.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1966-AUSTRALIAN-WAVVY-2-20-CENT-PIECE-/261224786170?nma=true&si=2RO5gEsmyfjJzOL6ZurkJPpt%252FmQ%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

Thanks for that FP.  Definitely the same coin as per the nicks on the 2 as well as the rim nicks from 12 o'clock to 2.00o'clock.  You should be a Detective.

If he sold it on 5/6/13 then it couldn't be the same one he showed the coin dealer yesterday.

I'd also be suspicious of the buyer.  Usually people with a fb rating of 15 don't buy $399 coins and it's grossly overpriced at that.

Steve

[Unicorn]

Am I missing something here ......... :close_tema:

[Steveqld]

Am I missing something here ......... :close_tema:

I sold the coin to a buyer on 26/5/13.  On 2/6/13 he listed the same coin and sold it on 5/6/13.  On 6/6/13 the buyer on that occasion posted +ve feedback:


Great seller , super fast delivery ,vry happy with item thank u

So my buyer didn't have the coin after 6/6/13.

On 11/6/13 I got many abusive emails to the effect that he had shown the coin to a dealer that same day and they said it wasn't genuine and threatening me with the Police etc etc.  He didn't have the coin on 11/6/13 as he had sold it the week before.  A straight out scam and no doubt if I had cooperated he would have given me a different coin.

I've also spoken to the Dealer Principal at the Dealership he allegedly took the coin to.  Apparently my buyer is taking the coin in to him tomorrow for him to have a look at.

[Fordprefect]

Yes I agree its definately genuine and the buyer obviously doesnt know what a wavy 20 looks like
or might have been testing to see if you were confident enough to stick to your guns,either way
its a mongrel act and unfortunately these idiots are out there

Buyer/Seller is a crock

He must know, does the following listing look familiar.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1966-AUSTRALIAN-WAVVY-2-20-CENT-PIECE-/261224786170?nma=true&si=2RO5gEsmyfjJzOL6ZurkJPpt%252FmQ%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

I'd also be suspicious of the buyer.  Usually people with a fb rating of 15 don't buy $399 coins and it's grossly overpriced at that.
Steve

That account looks to be his "Go Too" account when he wishes to
muddy the water of a particular item.

Block him and that 15 ID from bidding on your listings.

Don't refund!

[ausjack]

well this bloke go234coins bought the wavy 20 from Stevo and wanted his money back saying it's fake and sid he'd go to the cops and federal police but we can see that he sold this coin to riss079 so the plot thickens and looks like this bloke is trying some sort of underhanded deal or somethings going on that is really really suss..I'd be thinking about gettin the cops in to bust him..SCAMMER for sure..go get him Stevo :aggressive: :police_car:

[Unicorn]

Thanks Steve & Ausjack .... now it makes sense.
(Was starting to get confused there for a minute)

[Steveqld]

well this bloke go234coins bought the wavy 20 from Stevo and wanted his money back saying it's fake and sid he'd go to the cops and federal police but we can see that he sold this coin to riss079 so the plot thickens and looks like this bloke is trying some sort of underhanded deal or somethings going on that is really really suss..I'd be thinking about gettin the cops in to bust him..SCAMMER for sure..go get him Stevo :aggressive: :police_car:

I thought the quote was:

Book 'em, Danno

[Nevol]

He's trying to scam you for sure Steve.  Call his bluff if you can be bothered, otherwise just block him from ever buying from you again, and it might be a good idea for anyone else here that sells regularly on Ebay to do the same. Any coin he tries to palm off on you is going to be a ring in.

His selling spiel:

"WELL HERE WE HAVE A GREAT VERY RARE WAVVY 2 AUSTRALIAN 1966 20 CENT PIECE AS YOU CAN SEE A COIN IN THIS GRADING AND RARETY IS A ITEM NOT MANY CAN SAY  THEY HAVE AND OWN WELL YOU CAN DONT MIS OUT ON THIS CHANCE AND THE 2013 MACDONALD POCKET GUIDE SAYS ITS PRICE AS A COIN WHICH HAS ALREADY GONE UP IN VALUE SINCE PRINT IS $1200 DOLLARS SO GOOD LUCK"

[robbiegal]

hang on

if he paid by paypal
and then wants cash
you give him cash in person? are you nuts? - it's an ebay sale

he does a paypal claim - paypal refund from your account
he triples his dough
1. cash refund
2. paypal credit back
3. resell on

careful here

[purplepennyhunter]

added to my blocked bidder list!

[robbiegal]

Am I missing something here ......... :close_tema:

I sold the coin to a buyer on 26/5/13.  On 2/6/13 he listed the same coin and sold it on 5/6/13.  On 6/6/13 the buyer on that occasion posted +ve feedback:


Great seller , super fast delivery ,vry happy with item thank u

So my buyer didn't have the coin after 6/6/13.

On 11/6/13 I got many abusive emails to the effect that he had shown the coin to a dealer that same day and they said it wasn't genuine and threatening me with the Police etc etc.  He didn't have the coin on 11/6/13 as he had sold it the week before.  A straight out scam and no doubt if I had cooperated he would have given me a different coin.

I've also spoken to the Dealer Principal at the Dealership he allegedly took the coin to.  Apparently my buyer is taking the coin in to him tomorrow for him to have a look at.

Did you send the coin registered mail? if so, you have tracking and the delivery date is recorded by aussie post

[Steveqld]

hang on

if he paid by paypal
and then wants cash
you give him cash in person? are you nuts? - it's an ebay sale

he does a paypal claim - paypal refund from your account
he triples his dough
1. cash refund
2. paypal credit back
3. resell on

careful here

I sent him an email last night that if he disputes the transaction then he should lodge a dispute with Paypal.  I'm not meeting him and I'm not giving him cash.  If I did that I wouldn't be able to get my Paypal fees back.

Robbie G, I didn't send the coin registered but he can't deny receipt because his pictures in his ebay listing are of the same coin as I have in my listing.

I'm over it.  I'm not doing anything else except possibly report him to Ebay down the track.  Nothing I can do about the -ve fb.  So next step is up to him.  Irrespective I think FP's highlighting his ebay sale of the same coin is enough to kill off any claim or complaint he lodges.

[Nevol]

I'd report him to Ebay now, don't give him the chance to fire the next salvo. You have plenty of info to support you reporting him for an attempted scam, and Ebay should be able to remove the Neg FB he left.  

His so called 'buyer' looks very suss to me. The coin was sold 5 Jun, posted ? , received ?,  and FB left by both parties on 6 Jun.

His buyer has 15 FB Rating, from a total of 17 FB left, 5 of which are from him.  Stinks worse than a bucket full of prawn shells in the hot sun.

I see he now uses Brisbane as his location, but earlier listings had Daisy Hill.

Please keep us informed of any developments. Verrry interesting!