Wavey Base opinion needed

Started by Steveqld, June 12, 2013, 08:49:18 AM

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Steveqld

I've finally joined the club of having received a negative Ebay feedback after 12 years.  Buyer alleges the coin is a fake which I obviously disagree with so I'm after independent opinions.

I always put high quality images on my sales.  This is the close-up of the coin:

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Buyer was slow to pay and said he took it to a dealer in Brisbane and "Two Dealers" told him it was a fake.  I've actually been into that dealer twice in the last week and the Dealer Principal is away and a young couple have been there.  I've also sent an email off to them asking them to confirm their opinion to him and I'm interested in why they have that opinion.  Buyer was extremely aggressive to the extent that I offered to meet him in the foyer of his local Police Station to refund.  Eg this was his first contact with me:

HELLO I AM SAM I BOUGHT THAT 20 CENT PIECE AND YOU SOLD IT TOO ME AS A WAVVY 2 1966 WELL AS YOU MUST KNOW TOO SELL FAKE COINS IT IS A FEDARAL CRIME AND THE POLICE WILL FIND OUT UNLESS YOU RING ME VERY SOON FOR MY MONEY BACK ASAP I MEAN TODAY YOU CAN DROP IT OF I LIVE IN BRISBANE OR I WILL PICK IT UP NO PAY PAL NO ONE IS GOING TO FIND OUT UNLESSYOU WHANT TOO I WILL GO TOO THE POLICE AND FEDRAL POLICE TOMMORROW JUST GIVE ME BACK MY MONEY BACK AND POSTAGE AND TAKE YOU 20 CENT PIECE BACK AND STOP SELLING SHIT ########## MOBLIE############

So the options are:
a)  I have no idea and this isn't a Wavey Base
b)  The "fill in Dealer" is mistaken in their opinion
c)  The "fill in Dealer" believes it is genuine but tells his customers otherwise to deter Ebay purchases and to increase their own sales
d)  The buyer is telling me a load of crock

In the event the buyer ever gets around to returning the coin I wanted some other opinions on authenticity before I consider relisting.

Many thanks.

purplepennyhunter

Looks genuine to me. Unfortunate you had to deal with such a buyer. Hold your head up and move on. You met this guy at the police station for refund??
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markn

Meet him at a police station and get the coin back and give him his money back.  Looks real to me.
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Jaseee

Looks good to me, i would make sure he gives you the same coin back. if you do decide to go to your local police station for a refund

JeffH

I concur. If it is a fake it is a very good one.
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Nevol

It looks kosher to me. If I was in the market for a wavy, I would have bid on it without hesitation.

Make sure that you are getting back the exact same coin before you refund the money.  He might be running a scam, where he buys a genuine coin, carries on like this to get a refund, and hands back a totally different coin.  

Stick to your guns too, and make the exchange at a Police Station, and take a witness with you if possible.
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Ozcoins

If i was in your shoes i would think this person is
Either "really stupid" or "a scammer"

If they bought it based on good picture then they already know what they are getting.
So it sounds like a scam to me.
If you agree to a refund what are the chances you will get the correct coin back?

I would agree to a refund at the police station.  Tell them you will be bringing all records and ask for fraud charges to be laid if the correct coin is not returned.
This should deter a scammer and if they honestly believe the coin is not right you are doing the right thing by someone even if they probably don't deserve it.

Unicorn

I agree with ozcoins as to the approach.

The following marks should be enough for you to confirm your coin.

Good Luck eh!

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Nevol

Be sure to have the images of your original coin taken from Ebay with you when you make the exchange, either hard copies, on your mobile or laptop, so you can check the coin he returns for any identifying features, just in case he is a scammer. Don't forget to take a loupe.  

Good luck!
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Fulvio

This kind of thing burns me up. Especially when its a moron who can't even speak proper english.

I dug out both of mine and compared them closely to yours. Its genuine all right, as everyone has said.

Police station, documentation, make sure you get the right coin back, and bring a friend with a camera just in case.
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MattGold

Yep def get your coin back mate, stuff dealing with people like that. Like others have said, just make sure he doesn't try and give you a different coin back.. I'm no pro but your's for sure looks legit mate..

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I agree, one of the best looking wavey lines I have seen.   I support all previous comments.
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ausjack

Mate I so sorry to hear, gee we've been havin a lot of this crap lately and it shits me to tears..there's no need for it as I agree with all the above and here's a sad pic of mine sorry but I think it's real and I hope this bastard is on you bad buyer list

And I say go right ahead and I'll even ring the feds for ya..what a crock :( I think you'd want to have pretty good proof of it being fake to got to the cops or they'd just laugh at ya :good:
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stevo1962

Yes I agree its definately genuine and the buyer obviously doesnt know what a wavy 20 looks like
or might have been testing to see if you were confident enough to stick to your guns,either way
its a mongrel act and unfortunately these idiots are out there
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ausjack

that's a bloody good wavvy too so his lose..what a tosser, I'll gladly swap ya when ya get it back Stevo :)

and I'll swap you to PP, now that is a ball teara..nice clean, plenty of detail..very very nice :good:
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