1925 Indian die penny - a myth ?

[echidna]

I've always been intrigued by what I would describe as "mystery coins".
These are the ones described in the catalogue as "unconfirmed" etc.
Or some one reckons a mate saw one...
I guess you can never prove that they don't exist so the mystery will remain.
Good example is the 1925 Indian die penny.
Has anyone seen or heard of one ?

[Fordprefect]

I've always been intrigued by what I would describe as "mystery coins".
These are the ones described in the catalogue as "unconfirmed" etc.
Or some one reckons a mate saw one...
I guess you can never prove that they don't exist so the mystery will remain.
Good example is the 1925 Indian die penny.
Has anyone seen or heard of one ?

I've been looking for 48 years for one.
First mention of the combo I read was
by Dean in his 1965 Aust Varieties book.
Sadly they do not exist.
Sydney did not have a '25 reverse die
and the Melbourne Die records don't
show the combination being paired.

Plus the fact not a single example has
ever shown up.

I still look for the combo though :angel:

[robbiegal]

sounds a bit like the 1943 I penny with the missing ''I"
my coin dealer says he has been looking for about the same amount of time as you fordie and he has never seen or found one

[Fordprefect]

sounds a bit like the 1943 I penny with the missing ''I"
my coin dealer says he has been looking for about the same amount of time as you fordie and he has never seen or found one

That is pretty much true.

I have flushed out Filled mintmark '43s
but you can with a degree of difficulty see
where the mintmark did in fact strike and
disrupt the metal.

Dosn't help that the '42 is documented
with missing mintmark. :dodgy:

[Mister T]

Never heard of one, but I guess you never know. Another 1920 penny variety came out of the woodwork in pretty recent times so anything is possible.
Do the mint records not explicitly state they don't exist or is it just highly likely?

I have flushed out Filled mintmark '43s
but you can with a degree of difficulty see
where the mintmark did in fact strike and
disrupt the metal.

Dosn't help that the '42 is documented
with missing mintmark. :dodgy:

So they're both filled dies are they? I've never taken a close look at any to know.

[robbiegal]

I thought that the 1942 missing I
is in fact a die without the mintmark pressed into it

there seem to be a few weird and wonderful die combinations for the 1920
I think that Mc Connelly (might have the spelling wrong -here my apologies if I do) had a vague article in a CAB last year about a ''new find on the 1920 that a young collector down Melbourne way had found but I am not sure if I can recall photos - I think that the photos were coming'

[Fordprefect]

Never heard of one, but I guess you never know. Another 1920 penny variety came out of the woodwork in pretty recent times so anything is possible.
Do the mint records not explicitly state they don't exist or is it just highly likely?

Filled mintmark '43s

So they're both filled dies are they? I've never taken a close look at any to know.

For the '25 both Sharples and Holland both came to the same conclusion from there examination of the two mints die records.
The die pairing is not noted as being used.
Not a conclusion that the coin does not exist.
There is a very small (Microscopic/nil)chance that it might, maybe.

The '42 Indian missing mintmark exists.
The '43 Indian No I, to-date have been Die Fill.

[Mister T]

Ah right, thanks for the information Fordprefect.

there seem to be a few weird and wonderful die combinations for the 1920
I think that Mc Connelly (might have the spelling wrong -here my apologies if I do) had a vague article in a CAB last year about a ''new find on the 1920 that a young collector down Melbourne way had found but I am not sure if I can recall photos - I think that the photos were coming'

Yeah I remember that one too. I think it was a London obverse dot over top and under bottom scroll but I don't recall a follow-up (though I may have some missing issues between then and now).