Thoughts on this (flip over brockage?) half penny

Started by planchetflaw, April 17, 2013, 03:22:03 PM

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planchetflaw

Hey guys and girls,

I was wondering what the opinions of people were regarding the following coin. From my inspection the brockage part is definitely behind the final strike. Any idea what to call an error like this?

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Robster

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keldaw

Quote from: 'planchetflaw' pid='12271' dateline='1366177923'Hey guys and girls,

I was wondering what the opinions of people were regarding the following coin. From my inspection the brockage part is definitely behind the final strike. Any idea what to call an error like this?

 do you realise that if you hit on the thumb print and wait for it to come up on the bigger size then wind the wheel on your mouse , you can make it zoom in further  , I just found this out .. ,, kel ,,


take care because we care ..

trout

UNEQUE comes to mind :good:
I have NEVER seen anything like this.
It looks like another coin has been slammed into the planchet then minted leaving the reverse design under the strike.
Could it be a mint sport coin ?
Aim well to enjoy life. You only get One shot at it.
Illegitimi non carborundum

keldaw

at first I thought it was just a pattern  but looking further into it I see it is the same words  back to front but turned around a bit .

  marvellous error ,.. never seen  anything like it before ..

 ,, kel ,,
take care because we care ..

accumulator

It's a rotated double strike, if you turn back the first strike ( rotate it back to where the 2nd strike is it is the right way round iykwim LOL )

Markn & PPH showed a couple of the roo variety a while back.
Very Nice & i would say very uncommon in the early years.

trout

QuoteIt's a rotated double strike,
IF it is a double strike then how do you explain the reverse design under the final strike ?
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accumulator

But it's not reversed,it's rotated, use your imagination & pretend you can't see the final strike,in your mind turn the first strike back to upright position,you will see the strike is exactly as it should be.

Actually Planchetflaw,can you take a pic with the first strike in the upright or normal position please ?

trout

Quote from: 'accumulator' pid='12291' dateline='1366181788'But it's not reversed,it's rotated, use your imagination & pretend you can't see the final strike,in your mind turn the first strike back to upright position,you will see the strike is exactly as it should be.

Actually Planchetflaw,can you take a pic with the first strike in the upright or normal position please ?

Have another GOOD look at the coin and you will see that the underlying impression is INDEED a mirror/reversed impression.
Have a close look at the P the E and the L they are backward.
That is what makes me think that this is a "Mint Sport" coin :ok:
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Illegitimi non carborundum

accumulator

Yes you are correct Trout, I stand corrected.

Now i'll shut up & go away !

trout

Quote from: 'accumulator' pid='12294' dateline='1366182163'Yes you are correct Trout, I stand corrected.

Now i'll shut up & go away !

Don't you dare, I recon you would have forgotten more about errors than I Know Mate :ok:
This is most defiantly an error and not a "trout Mint" jobbie.
It's just that I can't simply understand how this came about and would appreciate being enlightened about it :good:
Where the hell is Nevol when you need her :dash1:
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markn

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trout

Quote from: 'markn' pid='12296' dateline='1366183423'Can we see a picture of the obverse?

I would hazard to guess that the obverse is quite normal Mark:ok:
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markn

Quote from: 'trout' pid='12302' dateline='1366185601'
Quote from: 'markn' pid='12296' dateline='1366183423'Can we see a picture of the obverse?

I would hazard to guess that the obverse is quite normal Mark:ok:

Why.  If it's a brockage that's been struck again then BOTH sides have been struck twice.  An image of the obverse would confirm this.  You'd expect to see traces of the reverse design under the obverse strike.
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purplepennyhunter

Yes, is the other side as interesting. If it is a brockage and then struck twice then it's a rare error I've not seen before.
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