Bugger! I think it might be PMD.

JeffH · April 05, 2013, 08:10:11 PM

What do you think? Looks like a touch with a grinder to me.
I really hope it is a clip but I will leave it to those who know more about that.[attachment=1598]

Jeff

enworb · April 05, 2013, 08:20:19 PM

Hard to tell form such a circulated coin. I would be leaning towards it being a clip. Can you post a pick of the edge?

JeffH · April 05, 2013, 08:23:42 PM

I will be away in the morning but will try to get a good daylight close-up of the "clip" tomorrow afternoon.

Steveqld · April 05, 2013, 08:57:06 PM

Looks like a genuine wavy base to me. I lean towards PMD as I don't see any blakesley effect on the opposite side but am open to other opinions

accumulator · April 06, 2013, 12:54:30 AM

I reckon it looks genuine,i have 2 genuine 20 cent clips with no Blakesley effect & i've seen 1 other the same.

enworb · April 06, 2013, 01:19:08 AM

Blakesley effect is hardly seen on aussie decimals from what ive seen. Weakness and fishtailing are better indicators, both diffiult to identify due to the wear.

JeffH · April 06, 2013, 01:49:54 PM

Are these shots any help?
[attachment=1606][attachment=1607][attachment=1608]

Jeff

ausjack · April 06, 2013, 01:59:40 PM

Gee it's hard to tell but it looks like it could be a goer..great find either way Jeff, well done mate :good:

Nevol · April 06, 2013, 02:25:13 PM

I'm no expert, but I don't think there should be evidence of the milling with a clip, particularly one of that size.

I'd be inclined to wait & see what some of the experts have to say. :angel:

JeffH · April 06, 2013, 02:46:33 PM

QuoteI'd be inclined to wait & see what some of the experts have to say.

I agree. So, come on experts, what do you think?

Jeff

enworb · April 06, 2013, 03:16:44 PM

After seeing the edge im saying it is not a clip. It looks unlike any genuine clip edge i have seen. Bang it one ebay still i reckon it will still go alright.

JeffH · April 07, 2013, 06:22:46 AM

QuoteBang it one ebay still i reckon it will still go alright.

How might I best describe it if I list it on eBay?

Jeff

Goldseeker · April 07, 2013, 04:15:49 PM

If it was a clipped coin, where is the curve of the clip to match the edge curve of the coin.

I waited a while before posting and I think it has been done by a file or something similar.

Tis a pity someone damaged/butchered/wrecked a reasonable looking 1966 "Wavey Line" 20c piece.

enworb · April 07, 2013, 04:20:07 PM

There can be straight clips as well as curved clips. Straight clips come from the end or side of the bar.

Fulvio · April 07, 2013, 05:05:54 PM

The way I see it, the only suspect thing is the reeding, which I can't think how it got there.

If it's a clip, the edge should be smooth.
If its been butchered, the edge should still be smooth, or show file marks.

Either way there shouldn't be vestigial reeding, especially in the centre of the clip.