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[trout]

Nicely done Mate :good:

[Nevol]

We have an invasive vine that used to come up in the thousands here.  When the plants are too big to pull out, my son cuts the top off just above ground level and paints some neat 100% glyphosate on the stub. None have ever regrown after this treatment. Sparaying them doesn't have much effect, but getting the treatment directly into the sap really kills them. They have really deep tap roots.

We are subconsciously 'looking' for them all the time, but at present they are very quiet.  A neighbour 2 houses away used to have it all over their fence, sprays of orange flowers in the millions, all of which turn into seeds.

Fortunately, they sold and the new owners cut it all out, so maybe that's why there's not so much of it lately.

[stevo1962]

We have an invasive vine that used to come up in the thousands here.  When the plants are too big to pull out, my son cuts the top off just above ground level and paints some neat 100% glyphosate on the stub. None have ever regrown after this treatment. Sparaying them doesn't have much effect, but getting the treatment directly into the sap really kills them. They have really deep tap roots.

We are subconsciously 'looking' for them all the time, but at present they are very quiet.  A neighbour 2 houses away used to have it all over their fence, sprays of orange flowers in the millions, all of which turn into seeds.

Fortunately, they sold and the new owners cut it all out, so maybe that's why there's not so much of it lately.

I had the same vine everywhere when I bought my home 11 years ago and I pulled it all out back then but every wet season new seedlings pop up from seeds that were produced from the original vine that have been laying dormant.They are a pain in the  @#%!

[JeffH]

Thanks for that Nancy. Sounds like just what we should do with one here.

[robbiegal]

Spent last week painting and fixing up my rental property to sell it .I havent worked so hard
since I fixed it up 5 years ago   


 

 House under contract after 5 days on the market so looks like I might have to fly
down to Nobles on a buying trip early next year all going well

lucky you!!
I am totally jealous of course!!

[Nevol]

I had the same vine everywhere when I bought my home 11 years ago and I pulled it all out back then but every wet season new seedlings pop up from seeds that were produced from the original vine that have been laying dormant.They are a pain in the  @#%!

Yep, every time it rains the little buggers start showing up a few days later. A couple quick walk around usually does the trick.  Pull 'em out while they're little before the tap root has time to develop.

[interest]

do you spray it on the leaves of the plant?

the neighbors' S-I-L said the vines have to come back to life - post winter and digging out - he literally took away about 7 large skips of the stuff - he actually had a removal truck from his work as a kitchen cabinet maker

so the plans is to spray the leaves - i think he also has blackberry poison in mind

the hubby says that the round up killed the leaves but the vines didn't die when he used it years ago


i hate using sprays but the destruction from these vines is incredible

Here's a little trick I learnt from my time at bunnings,
The best way to rid yourself of these vines is to cut them back to a manageable size, then put fertilizer on them, (sound crazy?) when new growth appears then hit them hard with roundup & leave them alone this will then kill them roots & all.
New growth from seeds treat normally with roundup.

[Triggersmob]

I believe a couple of drops of dishwashing liquid, added to the glyphosate, helps as well.

[trout]

What vine are we talking about here, is it Lantana or "wait a While" as it is otherwise known ??

[duggee27]

using glyphosate is an art..
read the instruction for application rates. being a systemic herbicide if the mix is too strong on some weeds it will only have the the effect of a quick knockdown and not be absorbed throughout the plants system and get the desired result i.e. a total kill !! if too week for some weeds may take ages and still not work
using detergent adds the ability of the mix sticking to leaves especially very shiny leaves such as privet , the longer the mix stays on the better absorption rate.
remember to spray enough to cover the leaf as any runoff is a waste
cut and swab is a very effective method as soon as you cut apply the strong mix by spray /brush as it will get absorbed instantly before it seals over.
have worked on forestry plantations where lantana was as big as a small house - a machete and glyphosate did the job !!
those were the days .... sometimes we humped 15 litre spray packs with up to 6 different chemicals, glyphosate/pre emergent/a ?mixer so the chemicals would mix/a sticker/etc
i feel woozy just thinking about the amount of contact i've had with glyphosate, it felt like we had it for breakfast , lunch and dinner .. and the smell....
too early to have a red wine to get over it, a caffeine hit will do :angel:

[Nevol]

What vine are we talking about here, is it Lantana or "wait a While" as it is otherwise known ??

Definitely not lantana.  The vine I'm talking about gets long clusters (3-4 In) of bright Orange flowers, then it gets seed pods, sort of like a flat pea pod, each pod contains countless seeds.

We still get them in the grass, but mowing usually takes care of those, any in the garden beds get pulled out, or cut & paint, depending if they've managed to hide from us.  

It's astounding how one plant can hide under another plant & you don't see it until it's a foot high. Thistle are also very good at this. :dodgy:

[robbiegal]

do you spray it on the leaves of the plant?

the neighbors' S-I-L said the vines have to come back to life - post winter and digging out - he literally took away about 7 large skips of the stuff - he actually had a removal truck from his work as a kitchen cabinet maker

so the plans is to spray the leaves - i think he also has blackberry poison in mind

the hubby says that the round up killed the leaves but the vines didn't die when he used it years ago


i hate using sprays but the destruction from these vines is incredible

Here's a little trick I learnt from my time at bunnings,
The best way to rid yourself of these vines is to cut them back to a manageable size, then put fertilizer on them, (sound crazy?) when new growth appears then hit them hard with roundup & leave them alone this will then kill them roots & all.
New growth from seeds treat normally with roundup.

i think that is the plan from the neighbours' S-I-L (ex the fertilizer so far but they are starting to reshoot)

using glyphosate is an art..
read the instruction for application rates. being a systemic herbicide if the mix is too strong on some weeds it will only have the the effect of a quick knockdown and not be absorbed throughout the plants system and get the desired result i.e. a total kill !! if too week for some weeds may take ages and still not work
using detergent adds the ability of the mix sticking to leaves especially very shiny leaves such as privet , the longer the mix stays on the better absorption rate.
remember to spray enough to cover the leaf as any runoff is a waste
cut and swab is a very effective method as soon as you cut apply the strong mix by spray /brush as it will get absorbed instantly before it seals over.
have worked on forestry plantations where lantana was as big as a small house - a machete and glyphosate did the job !!
those were the days .... sometimes we humped 15 litre spray packs with up to 6 different chemicals, glyphosate/pre emergent/a ?mixer so the chemicals would mix/a sticker/etc
i feel woozy just thinking about the amount of contact i've had with glyphosate, it felt like we had it for breakfast , lunch and dinner .. and the smell....
too early to have a red wine to get over it, a caffeine hit will do :angel:

tough work mate
thanks FOR keeping the country a bit more wed free
but I also hope that you had proper OH&S stuff and PPE and so on

i worked on the gastroenterology wards quite a few years ago and all I have to do is think of the word and boy oh boy - I can smell that ward as well!! yikes I need a coffee too!!

[JeffH]

put fertilizer on them, (sound crazy?)

Not really. I was told that glyphosate is a growth hormone that sparks faster growth than the plant can sustain.
A tried and true method of killing broad leafed weeds in a lawn is to put a teaspoon of sulphate of ammonia in the centre of the weed. It dies from an overdose and the lawn grass around gets feritlised when it then dissipates into the soil.
Different methods -similar end result.

[robbiegal]

at least our fence is sorted on that side and i have some great tips for the future with those vines

the other neighbour is a public servant ex carpenter builder so he has every power tool known to the carpentry world - the wifie is also making him do thier renos
and once again every weekend again - he is power sawing ALL WEEKEND - been going for the last hour or so - we go through this year after year now with them
our kitchen/dining/lounge  is about 3 metres from where is is now 'working' - he was working on the other side of the house for about 4 months which was wonderful respite

i did complain to the environment guys a few years ago as he was doing it every night until about 11 pm and then the week-end and their are bylaws around noise

after months (and years) of daily powersawing high pitched noise is drives a person bonkers

then the house across the road Is doing something major ( we think a pool and extensions) but need the public walkway for access - so we have had months of a mini grader thingee ? dingo - EVERYDAY - loads of soil going out and loads coming in - all say long
they have very little front access to the property so all the tradies, their respective haul trucks, dingo trailers etc are parking out front of our house
they even parked in our fencing guys the other day!

then the ones at the back have built an enormous 'hobby/retirement 'woodwork shed - that is right behind my veggie patch
then the other house nearby has the grandson who bought g'dad's house or inherited it - parties almost every friday and saturday night + he has a SCREETCHING CAGED WHITE COCKATOO and he is a tradie of sorts who burns off his work rubbish and home reno rubbish

then we have had out mr fluffy houses (two close by torn down)

so I am about to pull my hair out as the one next door and the young fella are driving us bonkas

there can be problems with surburbian living but have two close neighbours who are powersaw addicts and after 3 years of it - i am seriously thinking of selling

end of saturday morning rant!!

[Triggersmob]

We have a neighbour with a power saw too. He uses to cut timber for his pot belly stove.
Fortunately it is located in a shed at the back of the garden, so the noise isn't too bad.
The smoke from the chimney is more of a problem. Other than that we have a nice area.
Only the sound of the occasional lawn mower.