fakes

[Mister T]

I saw this linked on CCF today and thought it was worth taking a closer look at: http://www.jinghuashei.com/html/category/class_446.html
This company is apparently one of the better fakers, but looking at their stock most of it doesn't stand up to scrutiny.

1915H halfpenny:

Date looks too big.

1923 halfpenny:

There's a lot wrong with the date.

1930 penny:

The date looks slightly off, but another discriminant is the Birmingham reverse (should be London).

1915 shilling:

The date is wrong.

Centenary florin:

Rough surfaces and inconsistent wear (the orb on the crown and the rider's head).

1938 crown:

The surface looks a bit rough, as do most of the details.

1855 Sydney Mint sovereign:

The portrait doesn't look right for a start.

[stevo1962]

Some of those fakes are pretty good are are no doubt already sitting in some poor unfortunate
collectors album marked as genuine althiugh thankfully many of them are pretty obvoiusly fake

[trout]

AMAZING a website for an international forgery operation :dash1:
These moungrels are the al-Queda of Numismatics and should be surgicaly removed via smart bombs A.S.A.P :aggressive:

[Mister T]

Some of those fakes are pretty good are are no doubt already sitting in some poor unfortunate collectors album marked as genuine althiugh thankfully many of them are pretty obvoiusly fake

Yeah, I thought a few of those florins looked pretty close to the mark, except for the pitting on the surfaces.
Unfortunately knowledge seems like the most effective weapon here.

[trout]

I wonder how many coins the "Shady Bunch on eBay” have in their possession right now and poised to rip the unsuspecting collectors off at the moment.
No wonder new collectors get “Jaded” and give the hobby away as a bad joke.
These people are simply crooks and should be prosecuted by the federal Police to the fullest extent of the law.
All the counterfeit imports from China should be treated the same way that drugs, illegal weapons and other contraband are treated, with the exporter brought to justice as well.
It would be better for the authorities to be proactive rather than reactive to these criminal mints and stamp out the imports into Australia of these abominations.
 
I do my best to promote Numismatics wherever and whenever I have the opportunity but these slimebuckets will do immeasurable damage to this hobby if left unchecked.
You have to remember that the vast majority of collectors WILL be fooled by these fakes and those of us that are “in the know” can’t keep an eye on EVERY sale or auction.
It’s time for the Government to use its resources and infrastructure to stamp out this purely criminal activity.

Just my 2 bobs worth, but I do feel quite strongly on this issue

[JeffH]

I went to have a look at the site and all I got was this.

Dangerous Page
Address:  http://www.jinghuashei.com/html/category/class_446.html
Trend Micro has confirmed that this website can transmit malicious software or has been involved in online scams or fraud.

Please close this page.

Who am I to argue with that?

Jeff

[bellyflorin]

AMAZING a website for an international forgery operation :dash1:
These moungrels are the al-Queda of Numismatics and should be surgicaly removed via smart bombs A.S.A.P :aggressive:

I would be happy  to push the button , but  then i better not  the owner of the factory is most likely using child labor and paying them sweet FA too , poor little buggas might be missing fingers from the presses and i bet they would be suffering  chemical poisoning   from the toxic metals they use.

If no one buys the fakes as gap fillers  , then they won't make the crapola . :beg:

 It might help if  the customs would stop the fakes  been imported into OZ too.

[Robster]

They must have heard Trout from way over there.!!:yahoo:

[trout]

They must have heard Trout from way over there.!!:yahoo:

I must have a hidden microphone in my office; I was yelling out and uttering unmentionable profanities as I wrote my reply to this post.:angel:

[stevo1962]

I went to have a look at the site and all I got was this.

Dangerous Page
Address:  http://www.jinghuashei.com/html/category/class_446.html
Trend Micro has confirmed that this website can transmit malicious software or has been involved in online scams or fraud.

Please close this page.

Who am I to argue with that?

Jeff

Doesnt come up when I open the page

[enworb]

I think the only ones that are half convincing are the 38 crown and 34/35 florin but even then theyre off. The copper is laughable, the 1915 florin is a shocker and I think the sovereign is even worse. I dont think they would fool many people, particularly anyone who had been collecting longer than a week.

[Mister T]

I'm glad to see they have reasonable quality control in place though: http://www.jinghuashei.com/html/product/1006252320919012.html

[robbiegal]

I think the only ones that are half convincing are the 38 crown and 34/35 florin but even then theyre off. The copper is laughable, the 1915 florin is a shocker and I think the sovereign is even worse. I dont think they would fool many people, particularly anyone who had been collecting longer than a week.

don't tell them that or they will make better ones
although, i think that if it's not an exact copy then it's not quite as illegal

[ausjack]

can we test that finger print :mocking:

:scratch_one-s_head: and trying to get custom to stop ANYTHING you'd be doin well, just look at the people and drugs they let in :scared:

[bellyflorin]

:dodgy: looks suss to me http://www.ebay.com/itm/SUPERB-1914H-AUSTRALIAN-ONE-FLORIN-TWO-SHILLING-COIN-RARE-SILVER-/330902526163?pt=AU_Coins2&hash=item4d0b53d8d3