Cleaned coins

Started by trout, February 14, 2013, 04:24:16 PM

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trout

I have had a real bad run lately with cleaned coins :dash1:
The latest lot was from Canada (Where I have NEVER had a drama before) which makes a total of 4 lots from eBay being cleaned and hidden via creative images in the listings in the last 2 weeks :aggressive:
2 of the sellers had feed back numbers of 16448 and 23044, these guys are NOT newbie’s to eBay and MUST be doing this on purpose.
One of them has 35 negative feedbacks in the last 12 months and is STILL allowed to sell on eBay, Unbelievable.

Anyone else had a similar experience lately ?
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Robster

Cetainly sounds like a bad run.! with the large number of coins you purchase on Ebay what percentage are you unhappy with as a general rule.!? :icon_e_confused:
\"Everything in moderation, including moderation\".

trout

Quote from: 'Robster' pid='8199' dateline='1360822871'Cetainly sounds like a bad run.! with the large number of coins you purchase on Ebay what percentage are you unhappy with as a general rule.!? :icon_e_confused:
I am always unhappy if I get a crook deal but about 1% is accepable I suppose.
I bought about 20 diferant lots on the bay a couple of weeks ago and I ended up with a 20% ratio of cleaned coins :dash1:
In reality I hardly EVER get ripped of like this, I am either letting my guard down or the bastards are getting smarter.
I don't realy know what is going on.
All I know is that it is Bloody annoying and dissapointing reciving this crap after waitin a couple of weeks to pick it up :close_tema:
Aim well to enjoy life. You only get One shot at it.
Illegitimi non carborundum

Robster

Even with good photos the 'bad people' could still send you a different coin I guess.! Hope the next 99% are the good ones.!!
\"Everything in moderation, including moderation\".

Fr45h3R

When you're talking about cleaning, are we talking about a little touch up or a real get in there and make a difference clean ?

I had my doubts about a coin that I purchased a while back, and I showed it to someone else, who confirmed it had been altered, some fine hairlines in the fields.
The hairlines doesn't detract much at all, but it would be enough to get a Details grade at PCGS.

trout

Quote from: 'Fr45h3R' pid='8210' dateline='1360827460'When you're talking about cleaning, are we talking about a little touch up or a real get in there and make a difference clean ?

I had my doubts about a coin that I purchased a while back, and I showed it to someone else, who confirmed it had been altered, some fine hairlines in the fields.
The hairlines doesn't detract much at all, but it would be enough to get a Details grade at PCGS.

Defiantly not a touch up clean, this is apparent to even my naked bleary eyes.
These have been scrubbed and polished, you know that weird look that copper coins get after some moron has given it a good going over with brasso :dash1:
Silver coins get that identical unnatural look about them as well.
Under as USB microscope it wasn’t a matter of a few hairlines these looked like spider webs, masses of parallel and crisscrossed lines not only in the fields but on the design as well.
:kez_11:
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Possie Ron

[attachment=1359][attachment=1359]Just a newbie so asking the questions.
I really appreciate coins for their design and looks, As a lot of old silver is only valued at bullion price is it wrong to polish them up for appearance sake. No value nothing lost. I have a couple of Yankie one cents I could bearly see under the gunk, so I cleaned them up with a rub of the afore mentioned no no! Brasso. Is there an OK way of cleaning just to get the gunk off ??
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trout

Quote from: 'Possie Ron' pid='8689' dateline='1362094247'Just a newbie so asking the questions.
I really appreciate coins for their design and looks, As a lot of old silver is only valued at bullion price is it wrong to polish them up for appearance sake. No value nothing lost. I have a couple of Yankie one cents I could bearly see under the gunk, so I cleaned them up with a rub of the afore mentioned no no! Brasso. Is there an OK way of cleaning just to get the gunk off ??

Short answer.     NO
Aim well to enjoy life. You only get One shot at it.
Illegitimi non carborundum

echidna

Quote from: 'Possie Ron' pid='8689' dateline='1362094247'Just a newbie so asking the questions.
I really appreciate coins for their design and looks, As a lot of old silver is only valued at bullion price is it wrong to polish them up for appearance sake. No value nothing lost. I have a couple of Yankie one cents I could bearly see under the gunk, so I cleaned them up with a rub of the afore mentioned no no! Brasso. Is there an OK way of cleaning just to get the gunk off ??

Try soaking in WD40.
This will help get rid of green stuff and gunky grime.
I would recommend this for cheap bronze coins only.
Better quality stuff is better left in general.

Fordprefect

Quote from: 'echidna' pid='8692' dateline='1362098709'
Quote from: 'Possie Ron' pid='8689' dateline='1362094247'Just a newbie so asking the questions.
I really appreciate coins for their design and looks, As a lot of old silver is only valued at bullion price is it wrong to polish them up for appearance sake. No value nothing lost. I have a couple of Yankie one cents I could bearly see under the gunk, so I cleaned them up with a rub of the afore mentioned no no! Brasso. Is there an OK way of cleaning just to get the gunk off ??

Try soaking in WD40.
This will help get rid of green stuff and gunky grime.
I would recommend this for cheap bronze coins only.
Better quality stuff is better left in general.
Note the above comment in Bold

Here is one I prepared earlier:-
Intense application of WD40 spray, then soak in same.
Petroleum Jelly applied to float residue off.
Clean up hot water, then acetone.

Coin value before = Zero
Coin value after = Zero
Looks better though.:angel:

Rob the Elder

Possie Ron

Quote from: 'Fordprefect' pid='8694' dateline='1362100269'
Quote from: 'echidna' pid='8692' dateline='1362098709'
Quote from: 'Possie Ron' pid='8689' dateline='1362094247'Just a newbie so asking the questions.
I really appreciate coins for their design and looks, As a lot of old silver is only valued at bullion price is it wrong to polish them up for appearance sake. No value nothing lost. I have a couple of Yankie one cents I could bearly see under the gunk, so I cleaned them up with a rub of the afore mentioned no no! Brasso. Is there an OK way of cleaning just to get the gunk off ??

Try soaking in WD40.
This will help get rid of green stuff and gunky grime.
I would recommend this for cheap bronze coins only.
Better quality stuff is better left in general.
Note the above comment in Bold

Here is one I prepared earlier:-
Intense application of WD40 spray, then soak in same.
Petroleum Jelly applied to float residue off.
Clean up hot water, then acetone.

Coin value before = Zero
Coin value after = Zero
Looks better though.:angel:



Thank you, exactly the advice I needed. Loving the learning on the forum
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robbiegal

well, i'll be a monkey's uncle
i have never heard of using WD 40 for coins
that coni looks fairly unaffected by the WD40 - ie tone etc looks the  same

must totally stink out the place

you'd have to be selective as the WD40 could end up costing you more to use than what the coin is worth

does the coin now stink of Wd40??

yukkie - i don't want to try it but i KNOW that curiosity will get the better of me!! ha ha

enworb

I got some shocking coins the other day from a seller who knew exactly what they were selling. I messaged them and they very swiftly refunded my money luckily. I had been really good not buying from ebay lately.. that will teach me.

Possie Ron

I've just brought my bunch of coins back out after 30 + years. They have been tucked away in a coin album. Yes plastic pockets, I knew no better back then. I have spent some of today putting some of them on file, Just the George v pennies for so far, A link to look if you would like.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/93692018@N07/sets/72157632902449932/
Life is what happens while you are busy making other plans.

ausjack

Good jobs so far PR :good: I should do some more on mine :dash1:
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