Independent Coin News

[jens coins]

I am not sure if this is the right section for this.

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[JeffH]

Just had a look at the new online magazine. Good amount of content, looks worth reading. A nice range of varied articles.
I will have a read through later and see what I learn.
"The More You Know The More You Realize You Don't Know." I tried to track that one down , attributed to many philosophers, but most commonly Aristotle. I gave up trying to find the origin, too confusing. Also came across many variations on that theme.

[Basilstate]

Thanks,thats interesting,only thing how did the 1920 DABS English be estimated at 100,last i heard it was around 19-23 known egs.
Talking to a local Dealer he was adamant it was a trial run at the Perth Mint,his source is a perth Mint researcher who studied the 'Die Book'  from the Perth Mint about 30 years ago.
Anyway,as good a theory as any until a better one is put forward.

[nealeffendi]

Thanks,thats interesting,only thing how did the 1920 DABS English be estimated at 100,last i heard it was around 19-23 known egs.
Talking to a local Dealer he was adamant it was a trial run at the Perth Mint,his source is a perth Mint researcher who studied the 'Die Book'  from the Perth Mint about 30 years ago.
Anyway,as good a theory as any until a better one is put forward.

Doubt the 100 figure, I've lost count of how many are known but probably below 30.
Would love to know more about the Perth Mint researcher. Why have they not published their findings?
And Perth is the most likely mint as they received dies from both Sydney and London with Sydney the likely supplier of the reverse and London the obverses (like they did for the 1922 wide date varieties).

[Basilstate]

Hi Neal,apparently they did,the reseacher was a woman and it was published in Coin Review(& elsewhere) back in the 1980/90's,i don't have a copy but Fred may.
It was that they had 1920 Reverse's from Sydney or Melb.(i forget which Mint) and drawing a long bow someone added a DABS before doing a test run.Plenty of Dot joining but a plausible theory.

Just finished reading the 'newsletter',interesting and i hope it keeps going but 'Independent' is a misnomer,should be called the ANDA Coin News with the number of heavyweights supporting it.

[fred lever]

Hi Basil and Neal.

The Perth lady was most likely Estella C Robinson.
Estella was a researcher on Script, Notes and Coins and wrote regularly for ACR with a by line something like " From the Perth Mint"
I am going by memory here with no cross reference to back me up.
In my mind I can see her page layout and name in ACR.
 She had access to the Mint records and covered many topics.
This was in a time when I was not that interested in coins, must have been in the 1980's or so.
Estella would be a great subject for a article.
When i get to it!
Fred.

[Basilstate]

Hi Fred,found one of the articles,brother had a copy, but we don't have part 2.I'm sure there was a more detailed investigation of the Perth Dies around 10 years previously which would make it late 80's or early 90's.
There was also a article around 2005 on the DABS English using these articles as a reference,Web site(and short lived Forum) doesn't exist anymore but someone may have a copy.
The author said it was 'probale' the 1920 DABS English was a test run from the Perth Mint but it was more of a theory than fact you would think.

[nealeffendi]

Hmmm.. the article is from 1999 and the first unexpected find of a DABS English was a couple of years later by Raynes in WA. Plus the article makes no mention of English nor Indian obverse dies.
As for Independant Coin News... WOW pre decimal collectors dream heaven magazine. Who wrote the articles and who published it? I hope the relaunched ACR gets as good as ICN (or better yet they merge/collaborate). And I'm jealous about the AU58 coin, none of mine comes even close.

[Basilstate]

Hmmm.. the article is from 1999 and the first unexpected find of a DABS English was a couple of years later by Raynes in WA. Plus the article makes no mention of English nor Indian obverse dies.

Hi Neale,yes,the article(along with others) just confirms the Pert Mint had 1920 dated Dies,whether they were DABS or the dot was added later is conjecture,as is if they were actually ever used.

[fred lever]

Nicely done Basil, I simply had forgotten about Anthea Harris.
Forgetting is something I am getting good with at late.
I have the next ACR  issue Jun 99 on hand but no part 2 of that article in it.
I have to sort out my mags, they are scattered out of order, so will find the next years and see if Anthea did get part 2 printed.
ACR was in a funny state by then and the July issue is full of stuff on banknotes with McCrae and some one called Mick Vort Ronalds!
The owner ship was changing and MVR became the editor and main contributor!!!
I'll cruise through the 80's issues as well, i distinctly remember either  Anthea or Estella going into a lot of detail about penny dies for pennies at some stage.
I have a nasty feeling that the records were only complete from 1940 onwards (by memory!) when Perth shifted to kangaroo production.

Fred.

[Mister T]

Nice, looking forward to reading it.
Two coin magazines - what a time to be alive!

[Basilstate]

Yes,more of an Organ than a magazine but neverless interesting to read,one positive out of Dealer publications is they are up with current trends including pricing.

[jens coins]

The next issue is out now.
https://www.independentcoinnews.com/

[Basilstate]

Thanks Jen.

[Mister T]

Nice thanks.