1966 Tenner

Started by gnome61, June 28, 2022, 10:06:18 AM

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gnome61

Recent pickup , had been chasing one of these for around 20 years. A nice study piece tenner that has some history to the story on how they came about. One of Australia's most notorious criminals was involved in it. A bloke by the name of Robert "Bertie" Kidd. These circulated for a number of years.




gnome61

Even some come with the dodgy watermark and metal thread :)

echidna

Wow that's excellent.
Looks high quality and quite convincing.
How were they produced ?

gnome61

Thanks Echi, :) will dig the info out. Bertie Kidd financed the project. 4 others were convicted of the production of them.

gnome61

The 4 convicted were Jeffrey Charles Mutton - failed shop keeper and ex Navy, Dale Andrew Code - Tailor, Ronald Keith Adam - photographer and engraver, Francis John Papworth - Artist. After Code was jailed a stash of counterfeit notes were found in the chimney of his old residence. They caught fire , that"s how they were found, apparently. It is believed only about 4,500 of these dodgies made it into circulation, it is quoted. There is further information in one of Michael P. Vort-Ronald reference books, Australian Decimal Banknotes. Bit ironic that one of the faces on the $10 notes was Francis Greenway, convicted of counterfeiting. :)

Basilstate

Interesting Gnome,i faintly remember the kerfuffle at the time.

We had fake $50 passed up here on the Northern Rivers shortly before Covid,originally passed at a Horse racing track(Lismore?) then at a shopping centre. Lot of publicity at the time that soon died off so not sure if they got the people responsible or not.
I think i read they were produced on a laser copier.

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/lismore/fake-50-passed-on-the-northern-rivers/news-story/628c0a2c9ca4e7984e57c55f88f8081d

gnome61

I think the security mobs need an overhaul myself. Pretty sure I was getting them out of the atm's at times as well. Stopped looking after awhile. The amount of foreign coins etc that are being pulled from rolls is on the increase. See posts about them almost daily. Have a near complete set of study pieces in notes. Got a paper version of the new plastic issues from over a bar awhile back.

gnome61


gweidion

How did they do the security window if it is made of paper?

gnome61

The window is possibly a stick on piece, covered with a white out type paint. Probably similar to a 2 x 2 style. Will try and get some close up pics later on today.

Basilstate

Quote from: 'echidna' pid='126510' dateline='1656408887'Wow that's excellent.
Looks high quality and quite convincing.
How were they produced ?

Yes,unless i'm getting my fakes mixed up they actually had a plate made,how they get the different inks to stamp in the correct place would be complicated you would think.
I have a book somewher that states the Melb. Police were looking for the plates years after the arrests.

gnome61

Window images of the 20 study piece.



gweidion

Apart from the blurring of the image in the clear window it certainly isn't obvious how they have done it from the photos. Can you feel a different section as you run your fingers over it?

gnome61

There is all sorts of signs to show it's a fake, from the colours running to ripping in your fingers to the security window blurring plus a couple of other things.  Knew it was a dodgy just by looking at it.

gweidion

Quote from: 'gnome61' pid='126540' dateline='1656667108'There is all sorts of signs to show it's a fake, from the colours running to ripping in your fingers to the security window blurring plus a couple of other things.  Knew it was a dodgy just by looking at it.

And who passed it to you? Oh right, you got it at a bar. Did you spot it as dodgy when the bartender handed it to you?