WINDOWS 11

[JeffH]

A major upgrade that not many people really want or need. Microsoft reckons it is rather good but they would say that. I suspect just more lipstick on the pig.
I will wait for independent tests and reviews.
Introducing Windows 11 A new Windows experience, bringing you closer to the people and things you love.

[Triggersmob]

I certainly won't change unless I have to.

[redlock]

Didn't MS say a couple of years ago that Win10 would be their ''last'' version with constant updates?

So much for that promise :diablo:

[fred lever]

Lipstick on a pig is about right.
For my communications on the web like email and browsing to web sites I have to use W10 as the medium
Anything less than W10 wont survive more than 10 seconds if exposed to the web and 100,000 hackers.

For my real actual work, that is basic spreadsheet, writing, photographs for book and article writing I use WXP Pro and Win2000 office.
Why? Because there is nothing else later that works as smoothly, free of bugs and what you see is what you get.
Yes I do have later versions of Word and Office and all that, but really they are just more lipstick and do not do anything better even if they are packed with more "features"  that no body understands or uses.

Friends that do more intensive work in programming, or music and video production just tear their hair out with Windows and its barking mad  updates and how they introduce more bugs into the systems than they fix. This ever "improving" Windows is simply marketing in its worst form, changing something for no good reason so they can sell a "new" thing when actually new is not needed.
Fred.

[JeffH]

I have Office Professional 2010 which is out of date and not supported anymore. Still does what I want so I will continue with it for now.
Only components I regularly use are Word and Excel; anything else I already use other programs e.g. paint.net for picture processing.
I had a look at what the latest version offers and, as far as I am concerned nothing for me and I am not impressed with the subscription model they are pushing.

If and when Office becomes unusable I will just switch to OpenOffice which I have already tried and think is the duck's guts.

Similar story with windows 10. Stick with it for now and see what pans out. Anyway it looks like the free update to Win 11 won't be available here for at least 12 months and I would have to upgrade or replace my computer even though it well exceeds most of the stated minimum system requirements already.

[redlock]

and think is the duck's guts.

I had to google (well, I use DuckDuckGo :grin: ) that term.

Thanks for improving my understanding of Australian English  :biggrin:


I also use openoffice and it works fine for me. But some prefer LibreOffice which is also free (a team that split from OO built it).

[Triggersmob]

Thanks for improving my understanding of Australian English  :biggrin:


I also use openoffice and it works fine for me. But some prefer LibreOffice which is also free (a team that split from OO built it).

I usually use "the duck's nuts".

[JeffH]

Hi Ralf,
We do have some interesting slang words and expressions which puzzle and amuse others.
Some years back my daughter worked in the United States and her co-workers thought some of the expressions she introduced them to were wonderful. I believe, even to this day, there is a lab (could be a Labrador dog but, in this case, laboratory) at UCSD where "arvo" and "dunny" are in common use.

[Basilstate]

Hi Ralf,
We do have some interesting slang words and expressions which puzzle and amuse others.
Some years back my daughter worked in the United States and her co-workers thought some of the expressions she introduced them to were wonderful. I believe, even to this day, there is a lab (could be a Labrador dog but, in this case, laboratory) at UCSD where "arvo" and "dunny" are in common use.

Yes,i read a book many years ago where the author listed many Oz. words and phrases taken back to the USA by Military types that were out here in the 1940's.I can't remember any at the moment but will try and find the book online.

[JeffH]

Here is as good a reference as you will get for Aussie words and expressions.
Meanings and origins of Australian words and idioms

We share a lot with the Kiwis and also stole or adapted a lot of pommie ones too.

[ken-a]

I suspect that most of us have systems which will not take Windows 11 (according to the checker that they have available).

Link to an article in the news about this:
https://www.theregister.com/2021/06/25/windows_11_processor/

Link to Microsoft's page:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-11

and from that page - link to the checker:
https://aka.ms/GetPCHealthCheckApp

Which when run, I get informed that I can't run Windows 11.

[JeffH]

The System checker has now been updated to show why a computer can't run Windows 11. When I ran it a few days ago I got that same message and clicking the "Learn more" link opened a recommendation that I should consider buying a new computer.
My suspicion that Microsoft was leading me up the garden path (I have quite a new computer with reasonably high specifications) has now been confirmed. I downloaded the system checker again and received this message....


I had to search what that means. Windows 11 will encrypt your hard drive(s) and issue you a password. If you misplace, or lose, that password you will be in deep doo doo as nothing will be accessible on the drive without it. TPM 2.0 is a chip or module in the computer and Windows tells me I don't have it....FALSE.

'But before you panic, know this: Your PC may already have a TPM 2.0 chip built in. The technology was first introduced in Oct. 2014. So a laptop or desktop from the last five to seven should have a TPM 2.0 function. However, the security chip isn't always turned on by default. To enable it, you'll need to go into your PC's BIOS settings, and look for the feature. On AMD motherboards, it's called "fTPM." Intel, on the other hand, can sometimes dub it as "IPTT." '  from PCMag

Sure enough, I rebooted and looked at the BIOS settings and found Intel Platform Trust Technology, enabled it and ran the system checker again and....


I suspect this will be the situation for many people. TPM was introduced late 2014 and most newer (less than four years old) computers will probably have a version of it already.
Windows 11 Supported Intel Processors
Windows 11 Supported AMD Processors
Windows 11 Supported Qualcomm Processors

[Goldseeker]

Hey wait on, I am just getting my head around Windows 10 without bothering to get around Windows 11.........

[JeffH]

The good news for you Goldie is that Win 10 will be supported until 2025.
And if you read all about the great "improvements" with Win 11 it won't be much different for the average user anyway.

[redlock]

Two things:

1.: I have forgotten to thank ken-a for the advice which he gave me when I bought a new laptop last year (well, forced to buy because my old one was Win7 and support had run out).

2.: Did the run the System checker. New laptop can run Win11. Phew...