Pick the Cleaned Coin/s

Fr45h3R · January 28, 2013, 10:17:49 AM

Hi All,
I'm sure most of us would buy coins from eBay and make a decision to purchase based on the photo / scans attached.

Here are 2 scans of coins and I want you to judge them. I will post photos taken by the camera at around 6pm tonight.

trout · January 28, 2013, 10:31:58 AM

If the colour in the pic's are any indication I recon they have both been cleaned

markn · January 28, 2013, 10:55:48 AM

I don't think either of them are cleaned. But if I had to pick one it would be the 51PL.

b_j_w_79 · January 28, 2013, 11:03:36 AM

I went with both being cleaned. This is mainly because there appears to be some inconsistent grime from the lettering and the large flat areas of the coins. This could be caused by something else or maybe I'm imagining things. Just my guess :-/

trout · January 28, 2013, 11:07:48 AM

Quote from: 'b_j_w_79' pid='7470' dateline='1359333216'I went with both being cleaned. This is mainly because there appears to be some inconsistent grime from the lettering and the large flat areas of the coins. This could be caused by something else or maybe I'm imagining things. Just my guess :-/

I called them cleaned because of the mottled salmon/purple colouring, looks like these have been dipped in acid or the like.
They are both dull and lifeless and the lustre appears to have been eaten away on both coins

enworb · January 28, 2013, 11:10:42 AM

I think the 1943 will be fine but am not sure about the 1951. I hate seeing scans of coins and trying to grade/buy from them.

accumulator · January 28, 2013, 11:59:41 AM

They both have that strange colour that comes from handling cleaned coins, to me.

ausjack · January 28, 2013, 12:27:05 PM

If they haven't been cleaned they've been stored in PVC

and especially the bottom one

keldaw · January 28, 2013, 02:58:28 PM

i say the bottom one has been cleaned , ( 1943 my birthday )

judging by the markings underneath australia .. ,, kel ,,

Fr45h3R · January 28, 2013, 05:28:30 PM

Hi Everyone, thanks for having a go.

Here is a picture of the 1951 Halfpenny

Here is a picture of the 1943 Halfpenny

Would your answer have been the same if these photos were used ?

-rob

accumulator · January 28, 2013, 05:39:22 PM

No ! the 51 looks shocking,the 43 looks quite nice.

ausjack · January 28, 2013, 06:03:53 PM

I told ya I'm learning :blush2:

So let me guess, top are scans and the bottom are pic's..am I close

Fr45h3R · January 28, 2013, 06:28:32 PM

Quote from: 'ausjack' pid='7530' dateline='1359358433'I told ya I'm learning :blush2:

So let me guess, top are scans and the bottom are pic's..am I close

Yep the top images I did with my scanner, and bottom ones were under a light taken with a camera.
Don't be too disheartened, I wasn't the one who cleaned that coin, so i've bought that coin, off a photo that appeared better than it was.
It wasn't even a scan if i can recall it was just taken from a mile away with uniform lighting. It's the gamble we take on eBay.. To be honest, I still tread carefully around 'scanned' copper coins.

ausjack · January 28, 2013, 07:03:20 PM

Thanks Fr, here's a link to a post of mine on ccf about lighting etc

http://www.coincommunity.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=113539

markn · January 28, 2013, 07:07:10 PM

Quote from: 'Fr45h3R' pid='7528' dateline='1359356310'Would your answer have been the same if these photos were used ?

-rob

Clearly not, the 51 is obviously cleaned. The 1943 isn't. I don't like grading from photos, but I hate grading from scans. They can hide so much.