High priced 1931 drop 1 London Penny?

[fred lever]

Thanks Basil all leads help when researching a coin.
Fred.

[Unicorn]

Thanks for the great links Basil! :good:

[fred lever]

I hate to bother people but i'm back on the 1930 penny!
Question: could we look at our 1930 pennys flip them over and check the obverse.
I just went through my research images and realised 2 of them have the Sdot on the obverse.
Yes that's the same Sdot we are talking about on the 1931!
How could I have missed that: answer because I was not looking!
I know the reason why its there just need a few more heads up to see how much of a percentage of 1930's used that same obverse die.
Cheers, Fred.

[JeffH]

I would love to help Fred but one small problem...no 1930 penny here. I will get my pennies out and have a look what I have for 1931.

[fred lever]

Hi Jeff, yeah it was a bit tongue in cheek, if it was a 1964 penny I would be sweet!
However I do realise that 1930 pennies are usually kept in secure storage and we don't have bucket fulls of them or keep them in the back pocket.
I'm focussing on the dies made from a hub that was made in the 1930's and now realise that Sdot will be on 1930 and 1931 pressings but should not appear on 1929, but i'm looking at all my 1929 Indians anyway.
Fred.

[ausproofs]

I just did a Google search and looked at 1930 penny photos. Some have the got and others don't including the ones on the downies website.

[Mister T]

I hate to bother people but i'm back on the 1930 penny!
Question: could we look at our 1930 pennys flip them over and check the obverse.
I just went through my research images and realised 2 of them have the Sdot on the obverse.
Yes that's the same Sdot we are talking about on the 1931!
How could I have missed that: answer because I was not looking!
I know the reason why its there just need a few more heads up to see how much of a percentage of 1930's used that same obverse die.
Cheers, Fred.

Wasn't there an article about this late last year?

[autocoupler]

Yes Mr T, Dr Peter Andrews did an article for CAB on the 1930 penny with the obverse dot just a few months ago.

[fred lever]

Yep, Dr Peter sure did,CAB  page 10 in Nov 2018.
I have just rolled it up and am standing here beating it across my head, veerryyyy slowly, whack.....whack.........whack.........stupid fred....read your cab's...whack..........whack...................WHACK!
Talk about slow......Peter has all the detail there, fully referenced, relating to the die types and much more than I could come up with.
I think i'll go and lay down, my head hurts.
Fred.

[Unicorn]

:laugh2: ..... Don't worry Fred, you're not the only one. I started a thread a while back about a new RAM issue that had been out for months! (still beating myself up).

[Basil]

:laugh2: ..... Don't worry Fred, you're not the only one. 

Yeah,same here,i'm only a hobby collector although a 50 years+ one,and don't have the memory or knowledge to get deeply involved in prec.Dec. Coins varieties and Die types but take an interest in the discussions since the Internet started.

After going thru my Books,Magazines and Newspaper articles i can't find the article i remember reading but someone on here may come across it in their research.
It was published pre Feb 1966,so 1963/64/65,it was an in-depth article on the 1930 Penny and in the last paragraph the Author mentioned the 1931 Dropped Indian,a Coin i had never heard of.
Its not word for word but IIRC he stated, "..to interested collectors out there the 1930 is not the rarest Aust. Penny,that title belongs to the 1931 Dropped 1 Indian Obverse,only a handful were minted before the Die broke and even fewer escaped the Mint,a Coin to look out for."
As i said that's probably not verbatim but an article/author well worth looking for in any research on the 31DI,it was probably a Coin ID when researchers first started on the 1930.

[autocoupler]

:laugh2:  You're doing better than me Fred, at least you could find a copy. I think I'll head down to the train tracks and flatten a few pennies  :huh:

       That was a favorite past time when I was a frivolous teenager. Wonder how many rare coins were trashed that way :dodgy:

[serenitystan]

:laugh2: ..... Don't worry Fred, you're not the only one. 

Yeah,same here,i'm only a hobby collector although a 50 years+ one,and don't have the memory or knowledge to get deeply involved in prec.Dec. Coins varieties and Die types but take an interest in the discussions since the Internet started.

After going thru my Books,Magazines and Newspaper articles i can't find the article i remember reading but someone on here may come across it in their research.
It was published pre Feb 1966,so 1963/64/65,it was an in-depth article on the 1930 Penny and in the last paragraph the Author mentioned the 1931 Dropped Indian,a Coin i had never heard of.
Its not word for word but IIRC he stated, "..to interested collectors out there the 1930 is not the rarest Aust. Penny,that title belongs to the 1931 Dropped 1 Indian Obverse,only a handful were minted before the Die broke and even fewer escaped the Mint,a Coin to look out for."
As i said that's probably not verbatim but an article/author well worth looking for in any research on the 31DI,it was probably a Coin ID when researchers first started on the 1930.

Just my humble opinion..The 1931 dropped one indian obverse penny is harder to find than a 1930 indian obverse penny. The Rarest off all pennies would be the 1930 London obverse.  :angel:

[Goldseeker]

When I secured my 1931 Dropped "1" Indian Die, I was informed that they "didn't exist".

However I am now led to believe that they are as scarce as hens teeth and mintage is as low as 50 coins.

Any mintage figures different would be interesting.

[serenitystan]

Try finding a 1920 dot over lower scroll with a London obverse. They are as scarce as a honest Parramatta road car salesman...