How big a scratch?

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kchan1111

November 16, 2017, 04:37:34 PM
Just curious. How big a scratch does it take before PCGS will give it a no grade? Does anyone know or had an unfortunate experience?

I have my eye on a raw coin but there is bit of a scratch above the head. Does PCGS provide any guidelines?

Thanks.....

ausproofs

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November 16, 2017, 07:06:18 PM
Quote from: 'kchan1111' pid='112836' dateline='1510812454'Just curious. How big a scratch does it take before PCGS will give it a no grade? Does anyone know or had an unfortunate experience?

I have my eye on a raw coin but there is bit of a scratch above the head. Does PCGS provide any guidelines?

Thanks.....

How deep ? Also any possibility of a photo mate ? Normally scratch here and there is not an issue...
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kchan1111

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November 16, 2017, 07:18:50 PM
It looks like this. Above the head. It's quite big but not in middle... Was hoping there might be some guidelines provided by PCGS. 

echidna

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November 16, 2017, 09:05:26 PM
Quote from: 'kchan1111' pid='112839' dateline='1510822130'It looks like this. Above the head. It's quite big but not in middle... Was hoping there might be some guidelines provided by PCGS. 




Its noticeable but not in a focal area - the area where your eye is drawn to first.
Maybe its borderline but my guess is that will grade OK.

ausproofs

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November 16, 2017, 09:17:31 PM
So I assume the coin in question is gold ? This is my theory, gold coins get away with more marks than silver and copper. But this is my observation, not from PCGS etc.
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kchan1111

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November 16, 2017, 11:11:05 PM
Yeah it's a sovereign ausproof.

Yep it's not in focal area Echidna. But it's quite noticeable. Seems bit worse in hand.

Thanks appreciate the feedback/opinion guys.

stevo1962

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November 17, 2017, 12:09:46 PM
One day it might be ok and the next it might not.I just send them and hope for the best .Most times
I am pleasantly surprised but you won't know until you send it
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kchan1111

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November 17, 2017, 09:26:39 PM
Very true. Unfortunately that's after you shell out $ for it. :/

wwwww

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November 23, 2017, 09:12:48 PM
What grade is the coin? If it's XF-low AU it'll probably grade.

The rule is if the damage can reasonably be expected for the given grading, it will grade, otherwise it will body bag.

Same goes for cleaning, if the damage from cleaning (usually hairlines) can reasonably be expected for the given grade then it grades, otherwise it body bags.

kchan1111

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November 26, 2017, 12:16:04 PM
Quote from: 'wwwww' pid='112921' dateline='1511433768'What grade is the coin? If it's XF-low AU it'll probably grade.

The rule is if the damage can reasonably be expected for the given grading, it will grade, otherwise it will body bag.

Same goes for cleaning, if the damage from cleaning (usually hairlines) can reasonably be expected for the given grade then it grades, otherwise it body bags.

It's AU. I think it's grade but I didn't end up going for it. Decide to wait for a better one. 

Thanks for the explanation. Seems a bit harsh though. So the same scratch on an otherwise MS65 would body bag it. But OK on a AU50. Is an AU50 without that scratch better then an MS65 with it? I don't know. I guess it makes sense. Someone buying a MS65 would have the expectation that it doesn't have a semi-big scratch on it like that.
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