Coin Storage

[JeffH]

PVC gives of some fairly nasty fumes. Back in the day I worked for a County Council and line staff saved all offcuts of copper cable until near the end of the year. Any with insulation were loaded into 44 gallon drums and fired to remove the insulation. You could not go near them -goodness knows what the neighbours thought as the works depot was adjacent a residential area.
Upside (yes there was one) was the sale of the copper for scrap value bought them the best Christmas party in town.
Don't try that exercise now -you would be in deep doo doo.

[Fulvio]

Don't try that exercise now -you would be in deep doo doo.

Heh, tell me about it. When they tore down the old Motor Reg at the Exhibition Buildings in Carlton, a mate and I went in and tore all the lead flashing off the roof. We couldn't move the bags, so just dropped them over the side when dad came round in the car to take them to the scrap metal yard for us. Poor old VC Valiant (well, new back then...) had its nose in the air and the tailpipe scraping the ground. We did well out of it too... at 10¢/lb I think it was, we both lived like schoolboy kings for ages! :angel:

Nowadays, the first thing they do is put a big fence all around, and if you tried it, they'd lock you up and throw away the key.

I don't really think times have improved. We let the mongrel bureaucrats out of their box and they refuse to go back in.

[kchan1111]

Sounds like Bigfellani5 and trout you guys have good results with Lighthouse albums. For raw coins I have an album from PP.

But I also have a modest collection of banknotes that I want to organise better. None of them are really worth a lot. Each one $20-40 tops. Looks like the albums are just fancy ring binders for their pages. Are they worth it? Should I get their pages and just a cheap ring binder from Woolies?

Thoughts anyone?

[JeffH]

Binders like this are available in 2, 3 or 4 ring and various thicknesses and colours. Polypropylene so they don't give off potentially harmful fumes.
J.Burrows Insert Binder A4 4 D-Ring 25mm White
Plenty of places sell those. Quite reasonable price if you shop around.
The vinyl (basically same as PVC) covered cardboard type are probably best avoided.

[Fulvio]

Plenty of places sell those. Quite reasonable price if you shop around.

Indeed. I've seen them as cheap as $1. Or free if you happen across some promotional ones.

And yes, avoid the PVC ones.

[trout]

Sounds like Bigfellani5 and trout you guys have good results with Lighthouse albums. For raw coins I have an album from PP.

But I also have a modest collection of banknotes that I want to organise better. None of them are really worth a lot. Each one $20-40 tops. Looks like the albums are just fancy ring binders for their pages. Are they worth it? Should I get their pages and just a cheap ring binder from Woolies?

Thoughts anyone?

I don't have any lighthouse albums, all of my binders and pages are from PP :ok:
I do use the lighthouse 2x2's though.

[Nevol]

Binders like this are available in 2, 3 or 4 ring and various thicknesses and colours. Polypropylene so they don't give off potentially harmful fumes.
J.Burrows Insert Binder A4 4 D-Ring 25mm White
Plenty of places sell those. Quite reasonable price if you shop around.
The vinyl (basically same as PVC) covered cardboard type are probably best avoided.

There's this type as well, also from Office Works, 25mm Spine, but not available online.
https://www.officeworks.com.au/shop/officeworks/p/x-binder-a4-4-d-ring-frosted-x16p400350

[kchan1111]

Thanks for all your helpful suggestions. :good:

I think I'll get some proper banknote protective sheets and one of these polypropylene folders.

[Basil]

Archival Comic Book sheets(Ebay or Dealer) are good for notes,fold over and seal with tape and place in binder sleeve.Of course you can buy individual hard perspex/plastic type holders for notes but like slabs they take up a lot of space and are expensive.

[kchan1111]

Those would be more expensive than some of my notes. Some of mine are worth as little as $3.

I was going to get a bunch of these with a polypropylene binder.

https://www.lighthouse.us/epages/lighthouse.sf/en_us/?ObjectPath=/Shops/leuchtturm_us/Products/VARIO3C

One day I will move into the big leagues!

[robbiegal]

Don't try that exercise now -you would be in deep doo doo.

Nowadays, the first thing they do is put a big fence all around, and if you tried it, they'd lock you up and throw away the key.

I don't really think times have improved. We let the mongrel bureaucrats out of their box and they refuse to go back in.

stopped people getting killed actually

[Fulvio]

stopped people getting killed actually

Which is what the nanny state tells you, yes. But not being dead is not the same as living. By taking all the flavour out of life, they provide a bland existence in comparison to bygone times. Which I, for one, sorely miss.

[autocoupler]

By taking all the flavour out of life

From where I sit flavour equals experience, and experience keeps us safe. For me it's so frustrating how current industry thinking on the issue of training, particularly in the blue collar area, is so short circuited these days compared to the past.  There's almost an arrogant notion that people can be taken off the street and trained up by an on the job trainer who mightn't necessarily have expertise in that particular field, and then deemed to be competent in super quick time because all boxes were ticked and the paperwork looked mickey mouse. At this point they're sent out into the workplace with some fanciful expectation they will perform as well as someone who in the past may have had to complete a specified training program over many years like an apprenticeship, or held down a job where they would gain the necessary skills and experience through a specific line of progression. I realise experience doesn't equal perfection, but there's also no doubt that less experienced or poorly trained employees will be responsible for most of the stuff ups, at least where I worked that was the case.

IMHO the consequences of this manner of operating is not only the endangerment of all employees, but is now putting pressure on jobs as well as increased cost of living as companies deal with and pass on added costs of over the top nanny state type industrial safety legislation that was enacted four or five years ago due to glaringly unacceptable workplace death and injury data. It's like a double whammy of stupidity :dash1:

[Fulvio]

...over the top nanny state type industrial safety legislation

Its not just industrial safety either. Its everywhere. Road laws. Anything to do with children. Privacy. Any type of machinery, from drones and skateboards to robots. And so on and so forth.

Heck, remember the reaction when some idiot jumped off a cliff and sued the council for not stopping him?

The problem is, the more you dumb things down, the dumber everything and everyone gets. We got to where we are over millennia by taking risks which eliminated the stupid and strengthened the talented. And now we're actively working to reverse all of that as fast as possible.

This will not end well.

[robbiegal]

stopped people getting killed actually

Which is what the nanny state tells you, yes. But not being dead is not the same as living. By taking all the flavour out of life, they provide a bland existence in comparison to bygone times. Which I, for one, sorely miss.

no the nanny state doesn't tell me that
I have provided counsel (when doing coronial work) to the families of young men who have died accidently after wandering into work sites, pissed and fall & NOT suicides