CENSUS

JeffH · August 09, 2016, 03:57:35 PM

Just completed my census return on line. Relatively simple process -much more straightforward than on line form submission for other Government entities.

Now the Government knows no more about us than they did before -we have already been through several Centrelink interviews which are much more intrusive.

I answered honestly but I wonder how many forms are actually filled in correctly.

humpybong · August 09, 2016, 04:37:13 PM

Yeah...just did mine as well......not overly hard to do.

Did not ask any questions about coin collecting though....:yahoo:

kchan1111 · August 09, 2016, 05:55:57 PM

Quote from: 'humpybong' pid='93968' dateline='1470726433'Yeah...just did mine as well......not overly hard to do.

Did not ask any questions about coin collecting though....:yahoo:

Did you not put down Numismatist as occupation?

Unicorn · August 09, 2016, 08:19:19 PM

Music to wait to ........

stevo1962 · August 09, 2016, 08:20:58 PM

Yeah website crashed.Those that have not completed the census prepare to be fined

trout · August 09, 2016, 08:27:08 PM

I did it the old school way and filled out the paper form :good:

I am pretty sure that you won't get fined because there site has crashed and burned and you couldn't log on

Unicorn · August 09, 2016, 08:39:24 PM

From my understanding, if they haven't received your submission (paper or electronic) after a couple of weeks a census person will knock on your door to ask why. (Of course the dog/unicorn ate the form and it is now either poop or skittles). I believe you have until Sept 23 to get it done and only those people who outright refuse to fill it in will be fined. From what I've read some people haven't even got their forms yet.

I must admit I thought it was a brave (or poorly informed) rep that went on the news saying their systems would cope today.

nealeffendi · August 09, 2016, 08:39:32 PM

Quote from: 'stevo1962' pid='93988' dateline='1470739858'Yeah website crashed.Those that have not completed the census prepare to be fined

I've done one in the past 25 years, they were hopeless in getting the form to everyone in the past (like me) and I wonder how on earth they expect to get the millions without a home computer to do this tonight.
Not a chance I'll do it online as there are too many cases of hackers getting into systems (like every personnel file of US.gov employees was downloaded by the Chinese last year and that included the armed forces, or Hillarys 33,000 missing emails that included many rated above Top Secret that the Russians now have).
And there is nothing stopping the Australian Bureau of Statistics selling your census details to anyone to add to the 41 million they made selling info last year (yes they claim there are laws against releasing confidential info but laws or their application can change overnight as has happened many times before).

ausproofs · August 09, 2016, 08:40:13 PM

You wont get a fine if you dont do not do it today.. they give you a few days... Do it tomorrow.. We did ours before it all went belly up.

Triggersmob · August 09, 2016, 08:57:24 PM

Timed out for us and can't get back in.
Have to finish it later I guess.

Pedro · August 09, 2016, 10:21:30 PM

Wouldn't like to be in the shoes of those lucky people who tested the Census system right now. :blackeye:

Pedro

Fulvio · August 09, 2016, 10:44:20 PM

Quote from: 'Unicorn' pid='93991' dateline='1470740964'I've read some people haven't even got their forms yet.

Form? What Form?

Oh, you mean the one they said would be here in 5 days, 8 days ago?

As for providing full and truthful answers, they screwed that up when they demanded names for absolutely no reason other than because they could. Governments can't be trusted, and in case people forgot, both Germany and the US used census data to persecute their own populations. Don't say it can't happen here. This mob have a history that says they very well could do the same.

r9453 · August 10, 2016, 12:22:59 AM

You have more than a month leeway to complete the form before getting a fine.

I remember thinking when I saw a guy from the ABS on TV yesterday repeatedly say they had tested the severs and nothing would go wrong, that you cannot possibly test for a million hits per hour.

If I heard that minister responsible say that the ABS has never had a security breach once, I must have heard him say it twenty times. That's like the guy playing Russian Roulette saying before each round, I haven't lost yet!

Another line I heard trotted out more than once was that ABS legislation prevents them from handing over the data to government and yet that is the whole point of the exercise, to gather a massive database and disseminate it.

Despite all of that the Census itself is not the problem.

Fulvio · August 10, 2016, 01:22:19 AM

Quote from: 'r9453' pid='94011' dateline='1470754379'Despite all of that the Census itself is not the problem.

Tools never are. Its the idiots driving them who cause all the trouble.

In other news, my uncle came up with the ultimate way of avoiding the census entirely. He checked out permanently half an hour before midnight. R.I.P. :angel: I owe my presence in this hobby to him, and will never forget.

trout · August 10, 2016, 01:24:55 AM

That's bad news Mate.
Sorry for your loss.