Australian Pre Decimal Key Dates

[ausproofs]

Hi Folks

I have tried to find a comprehensive list of Australia Pre Decimal key dates. However I couldn't really find anything reliable. Could you please point me to a doc somewhere I can refer to ? Better if you can post here so we can all refer to it ? Thanks in advance for your help...

[Basil]

Probably best to get a copy of Greg McDonalds "Australian Coins and Banknotes" and Renniks "Australian Pre-Decimal Coin Varieties" as a reference,2nd hand copies will do as nothing much has changed for 50 years except the normal roller coaster of values.

http://forum.kimbucktwo.com/index.php?topic=4518.0

[r9453]

I'm not sure how comprehensive or reliable the above link is but its a start:

1 1914H 2s Rare
2 1915 2s Rare
3 1932 2s Rare
4 1911 2s Scarce
5 1912 2s Scarce
6 1933 2s Scarce
7 1939 2s Scarce
8 1927 2s Commemorative
9 1934-35 2s Commemorative
10 1951 2s Commemorative
11 1954 2s Commemorative
12 1915 1s Rare
13 1915H 1s Rare
14 1921* 1s Rare
15 1933 1s Rare
16 1911 1s Scarce
17 1912 1s Scarce
18 1914 1s Scarce
19 1924 1s Scarce
20 1939 1s Scarce
21 1940 1s Scarce
22 1918 6d Rare
23 1922 6d Scarce
24 1924 6d Scarce
25 1939 6d Scarce
26 1952 6d Scarce
27 1953 6d Scarce
28 1915 3d Rare
29 1922/1 3d Rare
30 1912 3d Scarce
31 1923 3d Scarce
32 1942M 3d Scarce
33 1947 3d Scarce
34 1920 1d Rare
35 1930 1d Rare
36 1925 1d Scarce
37 1946 1d Scarce
38 1923 1/2d Rare
39 1915 1/2d Scarce
40 1918 1/2d Scarce
41 1939R 1/2d Scarce

[wwwww]

1919 shillings are pretty rare

[r9453]

1919 shillings are pretty rare

http://www.bluesheet.com.au/Australia/Commonwealth_Coinage/Shilling/George_V/1919_M_Pattern_SP.html

[trout]

With the exception of the Canberra Florin every other Uncirculated King George V coins are pretty "Tough" to find regardless of the date or denomination.

[ausproofs]

Thanks folks... appriciate it very much.

[kchan1111]

Here are the dates listed in Myatt & Hanley as key dates:

Florin
Rare - 1914, 1918-M, 1922, 1923, 1924
Very Rare - 1911, 1912, 1913, 1915-H, 1919-M, 1921-M
Extremely Rare - 1914-H, 1915, 1932, 1933

Shiling
Rare: 1913, 1924, 1928, 1934
Very Rare: 1912, 1915, 1915-H, 1921*, 1933

Six Pence
Rare: 1918-M, 1922, 1912
Scarce: 1916, 1917, 1914, 1923, 1924, 1911, 1935

Three Pence
Rare: 1915, 1914
Scarce: 1923, 1912, 1920, 1916, 1942

Penny
Scarce - 1914, 1915, 1918-I, 1931, 1944, 1946, 1948-P
Rare - 1930, 1920 (in EF), 1925 (in EF)

Half Penny
Rare: 1923, 1915-H
Scarce: 1918-I, 1930, 1931, 1914, 1944

Although I do not know why 1930 penny is listed as rare but 1914-H florin is extremely rare.

[ausproofs]

Thanks again guys... some interesting facts.. I know 1912 and 1922 has been easier to find than the 1934, however 1934 is not mentioned as rare or scarce..

[r9453]

Here is a list of coins with mintages less than a million:

1 1915H 1/2d 720,000
2 1923 1/2d 15,000
3 1924 1/2d 681,600
4 1930 1/2d 638,000
5 1931 1/2d 369,600
6 1939R 1/2d 782,000
7 1944M 1/2d 725,000
8 1914 1d 720,000
9 1915 1d 960,000
10 1919o//o 1d 25,000
11 1925 1d 117,600
12 1930 1d 3,000
13 1931 1d 494,400
14 1946 1d 363,300
15 1915 1s 800,000
16 1915H 1s 500,000
17 1921* 1s 522,000
18 1924 1s 673,658
19 1928 1s 664,000
20 1933 1s 220,000
21 1934 1s 480,000
22 1935 1s 500,000
23 1940 1s 760,000
24 1911 2s 950,000
25 1914H 2s 500,000
26 1915 2s 500,000
27 1915H 2s 750,000
28 1932 2s 188,000
29 1933 2s 490,000
30 1934-35 2s 75,000
31 1935 2s 910,000
32 1939 2s 630,000
33 1915 3d 800,000
34 1923 3d 810,000
35 1942 3d 520,000
36 1938 5s 101,600
37 1918M 6d 910,000
38 1935 6d 392,000

[ausproofs]

Here is a list of coins with mintages less than a million:

1 1915H 1/2d 720,000
2 1923 1/2d 15,000
3 1924 1/2d 681,600
4 1930 1/2d 638,000
5 1931 1/2d 369,600
6 1939R 1/2d 782,000
7 1944M 1/2d 725,000
8 1914 1d 720,000
9 1915 1d 960,000
10 1919o//o 1d 25,000
11 1925 1d 117,600
12 1930 1d 3,000
13 1931 1d 494,400
14 1946 1d 363,300
15 1915 1s 800,000
16 1915H 1s 500,000
17 1921* 1s 522,000
18 1924 1s 673,658
19 1928 1s 664,000
20 1933 1s 220,000
21 1934 1s 480,000
22 1935 1s 500,000
23 1940 1s 760,000
24 1911 2s 950,000
25 1914H 2s 500,000
26 1915 2s 500,000
27 1915H 2s 750,000
28 1932 2s 188,000
29 1933 2s 490,000
30 1934-35 2s 75,000
31 1935 2s 910,000
32 1939 2s 630,000
33 1915 3d 800,000
34 1923 3d 810,000
35 1942 3d 520,000
36 1938 5s 101,600
37 1918M 6d 910,000
38 1935 6d 392,000

Thanks very much...

[Basil]

10 1919o//o 1d 25,000

Bob,just as a matter of interest where did you get the mintage figures for the 1919 DD?

I've read over the years several estimates but haven't seen a firm figure.

Edit...i see Peter Andrews estimates at 20,000- 40,000 but i've seen lower(estimates).

[r9453]

I got it from Peter or David Guy. In either case I don't think they were too definitive i.e. not direct from mint records or anything like that. I think they both might be happy with 20k to 40k.

[Basil]

OK,Thanks,whatever the mintage it was low.

[r9453]

Sorry, I wrote the above reply from memory while I was out and about yesterday. When I got home I looked up my notes. The 25k figure does not come from Peter or David. All my discussions with them about mintages have been in relation to 1920 and 1931.

Here is where the 25k figure comes from:

"In July 1920, the Melbourne Mint sent three pairs of 1919-dated working dies to the Sydney Mint so it could prepare for the ceremonial striking of its first penny in October of that year. These were experimental dies that were lightly used to test the presses for the 1920 Penny production and the reverses were marked with an additional dot above the top scroll to distinguish their production from the Melbourne minted 1919 //. Penny."

"The obverse dies were of the English type, the only ones held by Melbourne at the time. The 1919 .//. Penny that resulted is a scarce coin with perhaps a mintage of around 25,000 and marks the first 'unofficial' Sydney-struck penny. Records show that the 1919 .//. reverse dies were destroyed in 1924."

http://www.benchmarkcoincatalogue.com/#85

As you correctly state, whatever the figure it was low. It would have been better to leave out the 1919dd from the above table since I did not include other penny varieties which are all pretty much unknown quantities. The OP referred to key dates and I reckon 1919 and 1920 are both key date pennies but not necessarily because of low mintages.