Double Bar 50c

LooseChange · July 25, 2016, 06:22:50 PM

Hey All,

After a tip off from Trout i purchased the 50.50 Two Coin Set because i wanted a brand new/recent issue 50c with the double-bar variation.

Seeing as he wanted photos and i thought i might as well creat a thread dedicated to this variation of the 50c.

My photos are terrible, i found it hard to capture the rather tiny double-bar detail thru the plastic capsules... and this is the first time ive ever tried to photograph a coin

Maybe scanning is better when in capsules?

Feel free to post any photos of double bars in this thread.. or general discussion would be interesting.

trout · July 25, 2016, 06:41:02 PM

Well done Mate :yahoo:
I recon you could see that double bar from across the room it is that well defined :good:
Mine should be here by the end of the week , hopefully

What sort of condition is the round coin in that set?

LooseChange · July 25, 2016, 06:58:36 PM

The double bars are easy enough to see in person. I don't know how they rate to other years.

The circulated coin is in good condition. No complaints, i don't have any others to compare it with.

trout · July 25, 2016, 07:18:53 PM

I can recall that some of the members here purchased these sets when they were initially released, I find it unusual that none of them have posted that they are a double bar coin.
Maybe they just overlooked the proof coin in their haste to assess the Round 1966 coin in the set and missed this detail

Triggersmob · July 25, 2016, 07:34:51 PM

Just in case we have any new members or maybe foreign members visit this page, that do not know what the hell we are talking about, here is a picture of the double bars.

trout · July 25, 2016, 07:48:51 PM

QuoteJust in case we have any new members or maybe foreign members visit this page, that do not know what the hell we are talking about

A good point Steve.

Here are another couple of images, one I pinched off "loose Change" and cropped it, the other is mine.

Double Bar

Normal

There is also a "C" mintmark on this proof.

Fulvio · July 25, 2016, 09:44:16 PM

Quote from: 'trout' pid='93227' dateline='1469441931'Here are another couple of images, one I pinched off "loose Change" and cropped it, the other is mine.

Hang on....

What's with the different frosting???

trout · July 25, 2016, 09:53:35 PM

Quote from: 'Fulvio' pid='93230' dateline='1469448856'
Quote from: 'trout' pid='93227' dateline='1469441931'Here are another couple of images, one I pinched off "loose Change" and cropped it, the other is mine.

Hang on....

What's with the different frosting???

Anyone can make a proof coin look different by using different angles and lighting.
My image was taken directly above the coin Loose changes image was taken at an angle to the coin which produces a different looking image :ok:

LooseChange · July 25, 2016, 10:12:58 PM

My first photo does look a bit weird. At least the mint mark is visible in each of my photos so proof its the same coin i guess

Fulvio · July 26, 2016, 12:23:39 AM

Quote from: 'trout' pid='93232' dateline='1469449415'Anyone can make a proof coin look different by using different angles and lighting.

You missed my point. Where's the mirror field alongside the neck?

trout · July 26, 2016, 01:23:28 AM

QuoteYou missed my point. Where's the mirror field alongside the neck?

Picky Old Bugger :laugh2:
But Yes you are on to something there Mate :good:
That Old saying about Fresh eyes are the best to find things comes to mind here.
The design on the reeds does look a little different and I am unsure if the area in front of the emu's neck is a change in design or simply a stuff up when the frosting was applied to the die.
I won't know too much more until my coins arrive and I can give this some closer examination.
So far this particular coin has Piqued my interest and I am quite eager to examining it "in hand"

Maybe Mark could grace this thread with one of his remarkable images of this coin if he has one available :angel:

LooseChange · July 26, 2016, 07:31:53 AM

My 50.50 Coin:

Trouts Coin:

I don't have time to play spot the difference right now, this was just another difference i noticed between Trouts and my photos. I hadn't seen the difference you noticed Fulvio, good job.

Just for the record Trout, what is your coin? Baby set proof?

Fulvio · July 26, 2016, 08:09:34 AM

Quote from: 'trout' pid='93236' dateline='1469462008'or simply a stuff up when the frosting was applied to the die.

I'm waiting on a reply as to what process they use now. The last time I went on a tour, I seem to recall they were sandblasting by hand, but they'll have moved on. Probably a chemical etch, or maybe laser like this US Mint video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SN9qtTdJK3w

trout · July 26, 2016, 08:47:12 AM

QuoteJust for the record Trout, what is your coin? Baby set proof?

that particular coin is from a 2004 annual silver proof set

trout · July 28, 2016, 04:13:56 PM

Mine arrived today :yahoo:

Here are my images of the coin, even I can see the double bar at arms length :good:

Yes the design IS different in front of the emu's neck.