Opening Rolls

stevo1962 · July 01, 2016, 08:00:05 AM

It's always a decision to get you thinking .Should I or shouldn't I open these coin rolls.Well I opened a couple of rolls last night and here are a few samples

markn · July 01, 2016, 08:06:57 AM

Opening 1960's rolls used to be a sure thing (5+ years ago). Now, if you're doing the grading thing and looking to re-sell it's almost not worth it even if you get the rolls for free. However, if you're looking for coins for your own collection it can be a LOT of fun.

JeffH · July 01, 2016, 08:53:30 AM

My question concerns some rolls I no longer want. Should I sell them as-is or open them and sell off coins in dribs and drabs?
I can think of pros and cons for either way but, selling them whole, I miss the fun of the cracking them and checking the coins.
The rolls are;
•1979 1¢ (RAM)
•1981 1¢ (RAM)
•1982 1¢ (RAM)
•1983 1¢ (RAM)
•2008 $1 Scouting (Armaguard)
•1977 5¢ (RAM)

What do you think? [If you a looking for one or two of those UNC no need to answer; I know what you will say already!]

ausjack · July 01, 2016, 09:16:23 AM

Gee you did well capturing the colours Stevo :good:

Mmmm I'd crack them Jeff as you could find anything and a nice clip would make it well worth while

Robster · July 01, 2016, 09:40:53 AM

Nice halfpennies Stevo, One observation is the lack of denticle definition on these 'freshly minted coins'. I assume these would all grade well despite this.
Should T.P.G.'s be tougher on this facet of the coin eg. poor denticles should restrict a grade no higher than M.S. (?).
I would love to read some opinions on this subject.
I always show friends a 1951PL penny as an example of perfectly defined denticles! :angel:

ausjack · July 01, 2016, 10:11:17 AM

I noticed the lack of denticles as well Robster but didn't think that much of it as it seems to be pretty common with the half penny. Gee I'm not sure but one would think it would have to lessen the grade just a little as strike comes into play.

But not a great deal as strike isn't everything but it would count.

robbiegal · July 01, 2016, 10:29:53 AM

my my - very beautiful
remembering the photograph is huge and that little coins are 25.5mm across in real life

i don't think that PCGS fuss about the denitcles and at times even the clarity of the strike
they fuss about the surface preservation and that is how they designate mint state MS

Robster · July 01, 2016, 06:17:58 PM

Thanks for the opinions, I do love a well struck denticle.:angel: If I ever had the opportunity to open some pre dec rolls I would be more excited to find a complete roll of unc. die cracks or doubling.

robbiegal · July 01, 2016, 06:21:08 PM

i have a 1964 halfpenny that is MS64 and the obverse is very very oil filled - really smudgy but they seem to have graded on the mint state quality not the strike

stevo1962 · July 01, 2016, 06:53:37 PM

Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='91771' dateline='1467363068'i have a 1964 halfpenny that is MS64 and the obverse is very very oil filled - really smudgy but they seem to have graded on the mint state quality not the strike

I hope they grade mine using the same mentality but it will be an interesting experiment if I send a few with struck up denticles and a few without

robbiegal · July 01, 2016, 09:00:34 PM

the better the surface and the better the strike
can't lose

markn · July 02, 2016, 08:51:55 AM

Quote from: 'Robster' pid='91742' dateline='1467331853'Nice halfpennies Stevo, One observation is the lack of denticle definition on these 'freshly minted coins'. I assume these would all grade well despite this.
Should T.P.G.'s be tougher on this facet of the coin eg. poor denticles should restrict a grade no higher than M.S. (?).
I would love to read some opinions on this subject.
I always show friends a 1951PL penny as an example of perfectly defined denticles! :angel:

Quality of strike doesn't usually enter into it until higher grades (MS67+).

nealeffendi · July 02, 2016, 09:06:18 AM

Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='91771' dateline='1467363068'i have a 1964 halfpenny that is MS64 and the obverse is very very oil filled - really smudgy but they seem to have graded on the mint state quality not the strike

But if the strike had been crisp then it might have made MS65.

ausjack · July 02, 2016, 09:50:44 AM

here a pcgs video, surface preservation 60%, strike 15%, luster 15% and eye appeal 10%.
https://www.pcgs.com/education?utm_source=pcgs&utm_medium=spotlight&utm_campaign=education

robbiegal · July 02, 2016, 10:04:18 AM

Quote from: 'nealeffendi' pid='91788' dateline='1467416178'
Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='91771' dateline='1467363068'i have a 1964 halfpenny that is MS64 and the obverse is very very oil filled - really smudgy but they seem to have graded on the mint state quality not the strike

But if the strike had been crisp then it might have made MS65.

yes
i have submitted a 1960 halfpenny with crisp strike & beautiful surfaces
and yes it was graded MS65