1920 English Obverse

[ausjack]

Found one in a bulklot this week.Not sure if PCGS will grade it though

Looks like you've been getting a few nice coins from this batch Stevo, well done mate  :good:

[stevo1962]

Found one in a bulklot this week.Not sure if PCGS will grade it though

 
Looks like you've been getting a few nice coins from this batch Stevo, well done mate  :good:

Thanks AJ got a heap of 1933 overdates , a 1920 double dot , a 1927 indian obverse and a 1921 english obv as well as a few 1922 , 1924 and 1929 indian obv coins from a previously well searched lot

[Basil]

The Sydney mint records from that era record under Plants and Melting for the 7th July 1920 Quotation for Penny Bar Moulds. The Working Ledger for the 11th of January 1921 records last penny bars and for 12th January 1921 the last scissel from coining department. I think that counts as actual documentation/proof (scissel is the webbing left from the sheets after the rounds are stamped out).
Now IF any blanks were sent from India [/i]then they might have been offloaded in Melbourne (for the initial run of 1919 pennies).

Neal,reset,i have a 1920 English Obv. with a Reverse i haven't seen before,more dots than a Doris Day dress.Its not my coin so when i get the OK to post Pics.,probaly later next week,i will do so.

[robbiegal]

I know that Sydney was making their own blanks for the 1920 production.

Ok,i won't argue as without actual documentation/proof your statements hold as much water as mine.The Indian blanks,again IIRC,were offloaded in Melb. but may have ended up in Sydney,who knows.The best thing is for me is to find the article i've been referring to and post here,i have it somewhere but wasted a couple of hours looking for it last night,i think Gilbert Heyde had something to do with it so some of the older members on here may have a copy or remember it.

found this
https://www.amazon.com/Coins-Information-interested-beginners-collectors/dp/B0007JJU5A?ie=UTF8&*Version*=1&*entries*=0

[nealeffendi]

I know that Sydney was making their own blanks for the 1920 production.

Ok,i won't argue as without actual documentation/proof your statements hold as much water as mine.The Indian blanks,again IIRC,were offloaded in Melb. but may have ended up in Sydney,who knows.The best thing is for me is to find the article i've been referring to and post here,i have it somewhere but wasted a couple of hours looking for it last night,i think Gilbert Heyde had something to do with it so some of the older members on here may have a copy or remember it.

found this
https://www.amazon.com/Coins-Information-interested-beginners-collectors/dp/B0007JJU5A?ie=UTF8&*Version*=1&*entries*=0

I have a copy, I'll check it tonight.:idea:

[Basil]

I know that Sydney was making their own blanks for the 1920 production.

found this
https://www.amazon.com/Coins-Information-interested-beginners-collectors/dp/B0007JJU5A?ie=UTF8&*Version*=1&*entries*=0
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No,that not it RG,i have had a copy of that book since i was at School,i just flicked thru it.It was probably in one of the Numismatic Association(NSW?) newsletters from the 1940/50' or even 60's,it was a long time ago.
My memory tells me that it was just a statement that said there were very few genuine Clips from early Coin mintages in Oz. because of the method used to produce blanks.Anyway i won't argue the fact until i can find the relevant document,i have it somewhere.

Some scans from Heyde's Book,makes interesting reading 70 years later.

[autocoupler]

Was just looking at Hints on Collecting at the bottom of page 51. Gee whiz, I've made all those mistakes :kez_11::blush:

[robbiegal]

gee thanks Basil
I will try to copy those pages
might try to source a copy
probably rare as hens teeth for sure!

[Basil]

gee thanks Basil
I will try to copy those pages
might try to source a copy
probably rare as hens teeth for sure!

I find it interesting to read from time to time but its fairly basic,lots of Info. on Foreign Coins thou. which in 1946(5?) would have been very hard to obtain.
I found it while wasting time looking for early Oz. Mint Info.,i'll scan the rest of the pages later this week when i get some time and throw them in one post in this Thread.Mods can then move it if they wish.

[robbiegal]

that would be great I often download the articles the folk post here
thank-you

[Basil]

Interesting Coin,i haven't seen a Reverse like this before,dots all over the place,also strongest die crack thru 'Á' out of all the UK Obverse Pennies i have.

[autocoupler]

Love the dot over N Basil

[Basil]

Love the dot over N Basil

Yeah,i've never seen one before on a 1920,caused by a nice round hole/depression in the Die for whatever reason.
Interested too see what Neal thinks as he is documenting all the Die pairs.

[gnome]

Yep, that's a cracker of a dot.

[Goldseeker]

That "dot" above the N is for the blind to know where the centre/middle of the coin is...................