Specimen or Not, Wedding Set coins

[r9453]

They all have cert numbers that begin with an 8 and are labelled as Wedding Set.

What's the significance of this?

I'm not sure, there may be none. Most coins currently being graded have cert numbers beginning with a 3. For some reason PCGS makes the distinction.

[kchan1111]

They all have cert numbers that begin with an 8 and are labelled as Wedding Set.

What's the significance of this?

I'm not sure, there may be none. Most coins currently being graded have cert numbers beginning with a 3. For some reason PCGS makes the distinction.

Probably some internal number allocation thing. May be it was graded in one of their offices outside of US. Just guessing.

[drakesterling]

They all have cert numbers that begin with an 8 and are labelled as Wedding Set.

What's the significance of this?

I'm not sure, there may be none. Most coins currently being graded have cert numbers beginning with a 3. For some reason PCGS makes the distinction.

Probably some internal number allocation thing. May be it was graded in one of their offices outside of US. Just guessing.

The theory was that coins graded in Hong Kong started with the auspicious 8, but this no longer seems to be the case, as my submissions from the US are coming back with 8 cert numbers as well.

[trout]

My latest submission to be graded came back with 80 at the start of the cert# as well.

[r9453]

The theory was that coins graded in Hong Kong started with the auspicious 8

With 10 million auspicious number 8s available there are plenty to go around.

[runway]

They all have cert numbers that begin with an 8 and are labelled as Wedding Set.

What's the significance of this?

I'm not sure, there may be none. Most coins currently being graded have cert numbers beginning with a 3. For some reason PCGS makes the distinction.

Probably some internal number allocation thing. May be it was graded in one of their offices outside of US. Just guessing.

The theory was that coins graded in Hong Kong started with the auspicious 8, but this no longer seems to be the case, as my submissions from the US are coming back with 8 cert numbers as well.

Thanks for clarification :wavemulticolor:

[trout]

I am not sure if I want to continue to bash my head against the wall trying to have PCGS attribute these coins for what they are.
As these wedding set coins were minted on Proof presses using specially prepared Proof blanks and struck multiple times with an unfrosted die, same as a proof coin would have been then even a novice collector would assume that these coins would have a different finish to any other coin minted that particular year.

Why PCGS still continues NOT to acknowledge and attribute these particular coins differently to the Mint set/Circulation coins is a mystery to me as I am quite certain that their graders would be able to tell the difference in a heartbeat.
RAM called these a Gem Uncirculated finish, WTF Gem Uncirculated is a Grade NOT a coin type/finish for goodness sake :dash1:
Maybe this is the reason why I don't know, But just because a Mint comes up with some fanciful name for a coin type doesn't automatically preclude it from being attributed correctly  by a TPG.

I now have a few extra sets of these coins and I am going to try one Last time to have PCGS attribute them as either Specimen (SP) or Proof Like (PL), giving them a "Pedigree" of Wedding Set and still grading them as Mint State (MS) really doesn't "Cut the Mustard" as far as I am concerned.
If this next submission turns out to be another failure I will turn my attention to NGC and maybe they will use some Common Sense attributing these Wedding Set coins .

[runway]

How does PGCG identify frosted uncirculated trout ?

[r9453]

As usual, good luck with your quest, trout you are nothing if not indefatigable.

MS68 - is this coin ex Wedding Set?

http://www.pcgs.com/cert/32985283


Another MS68, currently on FB for $1. I think its ex Wedding Set although the PCGS image is an old dodgy one.

http://www.pcgs.com/cert/26046014

[trout]

I can't be certain on the top coin but the bottom one is definitely a Wedding set coin .

[ausjack]

Yes the bottom one looks like my pic's where it reflects all the light back into the lens, I either get a black or white dot as they're very had to photograph that's for sure.

[trout]

I have just emailed NGC asking how they would attribute these Wedding set coins if I sent them in to be graded.
It will be interesting to see what their reply will be :ok:

[Ozcoins]

I am interested to hear what they say.

[ausjack]

:i_agree:

[frenc11]

yep they are specimens