How can you tell when PCGS graded a coin?

Started by kchan1111, November 04, 2015, 09:53:48 AM

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kchan1111

Given a certification number, say 30155486. How can you tell (if you can at all) when it was graded by PCGS?

http://www.pcgs.com/Cert/30155486.html

You can guess by the look of the slab, and the cert number which are assigned sequentially I was told. But other that that how can you tell?

Is there some higher (paid I assume) subscription service that provides the info?

Thanks.

markn

You can only tell from the style of slab.  The numbers are sequential within an order but assigned randomly in blocks between orders.
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kchan1111

Quote from: 'markn' pid='81301' dateline='1446598598'The numbers are sequential within an order but assigned randomly in blocks between orders.

Thanks Mark.... but not sure I totally understand that. So 3 orders A, B and C submitted at the same time each with 1, 10 and 6 coins would have what numbers?

The 10 coins in B and 6 in C would be sequential. But the coins in A, B and C will be unrelated to each other?

purplepennyhunter

Yes, this is also because they may be graded at different times ie one a regular sub and one a modern have different turnaround times.
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kchan1111

Ah I see. Why don't they just assign the next number available as each coin get graded?

:huh:

JeffH

Maybe you should ask them that. I suspect none of us knows -could be a good reason or, maybe, no reason at all as that is just the way they have always done it.
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Unicorn

Quote from: 'kchan1111' pid='81297' dateline='1446593028'Given a certification number, say 30155486. How can you tell (if you can at all) when it was graded by PCGS?

http://www.pcgs.com/Cert/30155486.html


With the one above, right clicking on the image and selecting properties returns a created date of 11/04/2015, so for ones with images that may give an indication.

ausproofs

Quote from: 'Unicorn' pid='81310' dateline='1446621689'
Quote from: 'kchan1111' pid='81297' dateline='1446593028'Given a certification number, say 30155486. How can you tell (if you can at all) when it was graded by PCGS?

http://www.pcgs.com/Cert/30155486.html


With the one above, right clicking on the image and selecting properties returns a created date of 11/04/2015, so for ones with images that may give an indication.

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Unicorn

It is if your PC was set to US date.

Try this one of Trout's for another example:

http://www.pcgs.com/cert/32957491

Hmmm ...... even though Trout's one comes up at 23/10/2015 on my PC, if you then click to the larger image it comes up as 11/04/2015 too?

Perhaps it's the date the page was first rendered ...... off to the think tank again.

kchan1111

That would be the time stamp for when the image was written to your local disk after downloading from their website. :)

Unicorn

Yeah, bugger it, loading from the cache (hence the Aus date eh).

Oh well, back to the drawing board. :blush:

kchan1111

Yep - good try though. :)

I guess you can say, with a fair amount of confidence, that coin #10000000 is graded much earlier than #30000000.

trout

The only way you can tell with any certainty is if you have sent the coins yourself to PCGS.
As Mark said the only other way is to go by the style of the holders to see roughly when the coin was graded.
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